2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPutin would eat Trump’s lunch
I hear the Donald likes fast food and overcooked steaks. Does Pooty like that?
So lets stipulate: Donald Trump is not Vladimir Putins willing agent, and its not certain if or to what extent Putin is trying to elect Trump president. The real issue is that Trump and Putin share the same nihilistic approach to international relations. Together, they could transform our world.
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Putin has succeeded in putting blatant falsehoods on a par with documented reporting in explaining international events. For example, Moscow says U.S. intelligence operatives, and not the Ukrainian people, were responsible for the ouster of Putins client, former president Viktor Yanukovych (who once employed Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort). And Hillary Clinton somehow ordered up the mass anti-Putin demonstrations in Moscow five years ago thereby, perhaps, earning the payback of Russias hack of the Democratic National Committee.
Putin may well believe these lies himself, or he may suppose they are no different than the stories peddled by Western politicians. Either way, he has managed to create an alternative reality. There is the world the West knows, and there is Putins. Viewers of international satellite channels can take their pick.
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For all its partisanship and poison, U.S. politics mostly avoided these pathologies until the rise of Trump. Trump may not match Putins use of violence. But his unreserved embrace of falsehoods, cynicism and the amoral pursuit of narrow interest is as pure an American expression of Putinism as we are likely to see. That raises the ominous question: What would the world look like if they were both in power?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/donald-trump-amateur-strongman/2016/08/07/66756426-59ad-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html?wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1#comments
brooklynite
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(3,867 posts)MineralMan
(146,322 posts)The best taco bowl in the world. Truly.
Cosmocat
(14,567 posts)First off, that last paragraph is flat bullshit.
They would not be doing anything "together."
Second, Putin absolutely. without a doubt, wants Trump as POTUS.
The "relationship" is VERY MUCH like Fredo Corleone and Hyman Roth.
Trump is the simple minded buffoon like Fredo, and Putin is playing him like Roth played Fredo.