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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDonald Trump’s New Childcare Plan Would Only Help The Rich
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-child-care-proposal-35620a7bbfcd#.ldcn13gp5His plan is to simply make childcare expenses tax deductible.
...experts say that his plan will do nothing to help low- or even middle-income families, instead solely benefitting the rich who least need help affording child care.
Its absolutely regressive, said Helen Blank, director of childcare and early learning at the National Womens Law Center.
Tax deductions benefit the wealthy, who usually owe more come April 15. A deduction helps them reduce that amount. But many low-income families dont owe anything in income taxes because they make too little and qualify for credits that reduce or erase their burdens. Currently, 35 percent of all people filing taxes dont have a liability come tax time, and Trump has said he wants to significantly expand that number.
Its the lower- and middle-income families, however, who are paying the greatest share of their income for childcare. Families who live in poverty spend over a third of their monthly income on it, while those living just above the poverty line spend about 20 percent, according to Katie Hamm, senior director for early childhood policy at the Center for American Progress. (ThinkProgress is an editorially independent project of the Center for American Progress Action Fund.) Everyone who makes more, however, spends less than 10 percent of their income on average.
Its absolutely regressive, said Helen Blank, director of childcare and early learning at the National Womens Law Center.
Tax deductions benefit the wealthy, who usually owe more come April 15. A deduction helps them reduce that amount. But many low-income families dont owe anything in income taxes because they make too little and qualify for credits that reduce or erase their burdens. Currently, 35 percent of all people filing taxes dont have a liability come tax time, and Trump has said he wants to significantly expand that number.
Its the lower- and middle-income families, however, who are paying the greatest share of their income for childcare. Families who live in poverty spend over a third of their monthly income on it, while those living just above the poverty line spend about 20 percent, according to Katie Hamm, senior director for early childhood policy at the Center for American Progress. (ThinkProgress is an editorially independent project of the Center for American Progress Action Fund.) Everyone who makes more, however, spends less than 10 percent of their income on average.
And because there is no cap, the more you pay for child care, the more you benefit.
Thanks for nothing, Ivanka!
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Donald Trump’s New Childcare Plan Would Only Help The Rich (Original Post)
Native
Aug 2016
OP
Yup. Tax dollars for rich little brats who then won't pay their fair share of taxes.
MichiganVote
Aug 2016
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MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)1. Yup. Tax dollars for rich little brats who then won't pay their fair share of taxes.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)2. Wait - there already is a childcare tax credit.
I thought that a tax credit is generally better for working families than a deduction. Am I wrong?
Native
(5,942 posts)3. No, you aren't wrong. Per the WSJ here's the rub
The focus on child-care costs is relatively new for Mr. Trump. The federal tax code has long provided two primary means for families to receive breaks for child-care costsa dependent-care spending account that allows workers to put aside as much as $5,000 in pretax income and a dependent-care tax credit. Mr. Obama last year proposed to triple the maximum credit to $3,000 per child.
And on Trump's specific plan:
It wasnt clear how such a tax break might be structured and whether it would be available to tens of millions of families that dont pay income taxes because they have lower incomes. Making child-care expenses fully deductible would provide much larger benefits to the wealthiest families that have larger tax bills.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-to-propose-tax-breaks-on-pocketbook-issues-in-economic-plan-1470663478
Native
(5,942 posts)4. Until specifics are made available, there's basically no telling how this will work - per Time Mag..
http://time.com/money/4442985/trump-child-care-tax-plan/?xid=homepage
And as for how the deduction might work:
Bottom line - a deduction does not mean it's free, and it could actually be worse for families with lower incomes.
Theres really no way to know what it means until the specifics are released, says CPA Mike Piper and author of the Oblivious Investor blog.
And as for how the deduction might work:
Would the deduction be an itemized deduction or an above the line deduction, which can be claimed even by people using the standard deduction? says Piper. Also, would there be an income limit on the deduction? Would it get phased out for taxpayers as their income increases through a certain range (as happens for many tax breaks)?
Also, lower income families might not benefit from the plan since they dont pay federal income taxes in the first place.
If it replaces the credit, it may end up making child care more expensive for certain families, especially those with lower incomes, says financial planner Matt Becker. A tax deduction may not be as helpful for those families since their tax rate is low and they would therefore only get a smaller break.
Also, lower income families might not benefit from the plan since they dont pay federal income taxes in the first place.
If it replaces the credit, it may end up making child care more expensive for certain families, especially those with lower incomes, says financial planner Matt Becker. A tax deduction may not be as helpful for those families since their tax rate is low and they would therefore only get a smaller break.
Bottom line - a deduction does not mean it's free, and it could actually be worse for families with lower incomes.