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redStateBlueHeart

(265 posts)
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 11:53 PM Aug 2016

I still think there's a 50/50 chance Trump is intentially trying to throw the election or

Is just plain crazy. You can only fake crazy for so long, and past history shows that he most likely has NPD (at least), so after the past couple weeks I'm leaning towards the latter. You?

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I still think there's a 50/50 chance Trump is intentially trying to throw the election or (Original Post) redStateBlueHeart Aug 2016 OP
I thing there's a good chance he's trying/hoping not to win. TDale313 Aug 2016 #1
That's why he's trying to save face by saying the election will be rigged anyway redStateBlueHeart Aug 2016 #2
Yes, that was extremely suspicious PatSeg Aug 2016 #14
NPD is not "craziness" like, for example, schizophrenia. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2016 #3
I agree. LiberalFighter Aug 2016 #8
It's as if he's doing everything he can to lose ailsagirl Aug 2016 #4
He has virtually destroyed his brand, but he stays in because he is addicted to the wash of tblue37 Aug 2016 #10
Wow-- that kind of egotism is so off-the-charts ailsagirl Aug 2016 #11
His personality was described quite well by the man who wrote "The Art of The Deal" Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #12
Thanks, Buckeye_Democrat ailsagirl Aug 2016 #13
There was also a very long Politico article... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #15
Totally unfit ailsagirl Aug 2016 #16
This is who is really is. KMOD Aug 2016 #5
He wants to put the Trump brand on the presidency radical noodle Aug 2016 #6
I think you're right redStateBlueHeart Aug 2016 #9
It doesn't matter to me in the slightest what he "wants".... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #7
He'll take the credit for stopping the nomination of the other R candidates. YOHABLO Aug 2016 #17

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
1. I thing there's a good chance he's trying/hoping not to win.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:02 AM
Aug 2016

He'll have plenty of excuses ready why, of course. His ego won't allow for him to have lost fair and square- but honestly I don't believe he actually want to be President.

redStateBlueHeart

(265 posts)
2. That's why he's trying to save face by saying the election will be rigged anyway
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:06 AM
Aug 2016

I'm really afraid his voters may riot in the streets

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
14. Yes, that was extremely suspicious
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:54 PM
Aug 2016

I am quite sure Trump never really wanted to be president, but he also hates losing. So the "rigged election" thing sounds like a preemptive defense of his well orchestrated loss.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,790 posts)
3. NPD is not "craziness" like, for example, schizophrenia.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:09 AM
Aug 2016

Trump is not psychotic - he doesn't have hallucinations or believe he's Jesus or that he is receiving messages through his fillings. Instead, he seems to have a personality disorder, which is a pattern of maladaptive behavior and thinking. He isn't faking. That extreme arrogance and narcissism is his personality, and according to people who have known him for years he seems to have been that way for his entire adult life. He is most definitely not trying to throw the election; he is obsessed with winning and with being "the best" at everything, which is typical of NPD. What we see is what he is. I think he really does want to be President in the sense that this would be proof of his "greatness," but he has no idea what the job entails, and he wouldn't do much of the day-to-day work anyhow.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
4. It's as if he's doing everything he can to lose
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:14 AM
Aug 2016

But why would anyone go through all that? Just for publicity??

tblue37

(65,458 posts)
10. He has virtually destroyed his brand, but he stays in because he is addicted to the wash of
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:38 AM
Aug 2016

approval he gets from his rally crowds, and to the nonstop publicity he gets from the media. Even during a face-to-face WaPo interview, he stopped five times to watch TV, mainly to look at himself on TV and to comment on his high energy and success <emphasis added>:

"Trump Pauses Washington Post Interview Five Times to Watch TV"
http://www.mediaite.com/print/trump-pauses-washington-post-interview-five-times-to-watch-tv/

SNIP

RUCKER: Well, half the people in your rallies are veterans.

TRUMP: [Looks at the television again] Look at this. It’s all Trump all day long. That’s why their ratings are through the roof. I’d hate to say, Philip, if I wasn’t running, the television networks would be doing less than half the business.

5.

TRUMP: I got more votes than anybody in the history of Republican politics. By millions. Don’t forget. How about if I had two people in the race? The number would’ve been twice as good. In other words, people with 2 million people. Because the Republican party increased. [Trump looks at the TV.] That statement’s gotten a lot of play. I love that statement we wrote. So I’m just not quite there yet.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
11. Wow-- that kind of egotism is so off-the-charts
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:40 PM
Aug 2016

I think you're right on target. Thanks for your reply and the reference!!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
12. His personality was described quite well by the man who wrote "The Art of The Deal"
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:47 PM
Aug 2016

He's an attention whore. He was recently observed being distracted by watching himself on TV (with a big smile on his face) as someone tried to interview him.

Anyway, you might want to read this entire article sometime and not just the part that I cut and pasted.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

“He loved the attention,” Schwartz recalls. “If he could have had three hundred thousand people listening in, he would have been even happier.”

This year, Schwartz has heard some argue that there must be a more thoughtful and nuanced version of Donald Trump that he is keeping in reserve for after the campaign. “There isn’t,” Schwartz insists. “There is no private Trump.” This is not a matter of hindsight. While working on “The Art of the Deal,” Schwartz kept a journal in which he expressed his amazement at Trump’s personality, writing that Trump seemed driven entirely by a need for public attention. “All he is is ‘stomp, stomp, stomp’—recognition from outside, bigger, more, a whole series of things that go nowhere in particular,” he observed, on October 21, 1986.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
15. There was also a very long Politico article...
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:57 PM
Aug 2016

... that featured other biographers who didn't speak quite as harshly about him -- they didn't call him a sociopath -- but it was more of the same descriptions overall.

He's so incredibly unfit for the White House, it's scary. Thank goodness that he seems to be imploding!

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
16. Totally unfit
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:59 PM
Aug 2016

I just wish we were closer to the election. Three months is an eternity-- in this case, anyway

radical noodle

(8,010 posts)
6. He wants to put the Trump brand on the presidency
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:23 AM
Aug 2016

just as he's put it on buildings that he has absolutely nothing to do with. I'm sure he's planning to rename things after himself and his kids. So I think he wants to win although I don't think he wants to do the job. I don't think he has control of his reactions to criticism and will continue to lash out at anyone and everyone who doesn't think he is a genius. They will never be able to get him ready for a debate because he can't focus his attention on anything and instead looks at the bright shiny light overhead or watches TV while someone is talking to him. He has no morals, no conscience, and no redeeming social value. He's a bloated Cheeto with no soul.

redStateBlueHeart

(265 posts)
9. I think you're right
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:35 AM
Aug 2016
"I'm sure he's planning to rename things after himself and his kids."

A hallmark of a dictator.

Wounded Bear

(58,677 posts)
7. It doesn't matter to me in the slightest what he "wants"....
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:23 AM
Aug 2016

As long as Hillary and the Dems continue to run a good campaign, they will win, and we'll most likely flip the Senate and will have an outside shot at the House, too.

Donald has almost made himself irrelevant through his own actions, and I suspect there is no way he can make up for lost opportunities so far. The one thing I fear is an outside event that might tilt things unexpectedly. Other than that, we just need to do the ground work. With any luck, though, Donald is going down, and hopefully will drag substantial parts of the Repub party with him. Intentional or not, I'm all for it.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
17. He'll take the credit for stopping the nomination of the other R candidates.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:06 PM
Aug 2016

It will be: "you see, you see what I did to stop these other crazies from getting hold of the Presidency?" We will all have Trump to thank for his own political meltdown .. because of course he did it on purpose. LOL He'll be wanting an Academy Award.

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