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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:10 PM Aug 2016

Kornacki on MSNBC Just Showed Latest Polls: Trump Is SO Fucked!

Losing badly in PA, FL and other states that he needs to flip to have any prayer of winning. Now down 17 points in NH, which Trump thinks he can win.

The message today is that the vast majority of polls now consistently show him losing at historic levels in every state he needs to win to have a chance. Double-digit gaps opening up in many battleground states.

BONUS POINTS: right before Kornacki came on, MSNBC had Jon Ralston on from Hillary's rally in Vegas. He is calling NV for Hillary as Trump is falling way behind in voter registration and other important initiatives because he has no campaign structure at all in NV. Says outside of Trump diehards Trump has made no gains at all in NV.

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Kornacki on MSNBC Just Showed Latest Polls: Trump Is SO Fucked! (Original Post) stopbush Aug 2016 OP
Well, that's good... because either Trump is fucked - or we are. WheelWalker Aug 2016 #1
The best response I have seen anywhere! Bravo prarie deem Aug 2016 #27
Thumbs up, WW. We cannot afford to become too complacent with japple Aug 2016 #38
If thinking Hillary has a good chance of winning is complacency ailsagirl Aug 2016 #42
I remain cautiously optimistic. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #2
I remain optimistically optimistic! stopbush Aug 2016 #3
I remain optimistically cautious! Doodley Aug 2016 #5
I remain pessimistically hopeful! PJMcK Aug 2016 #6
i remain. barbtries Aug 2016 #17
I don't think Trump will make it to November. tecelote Aug 2016 #37
He just has to make it to September. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #44
i say its him MFM008 Aug 2016 #4
Remember: Don't poke the bears on Nov. 8th Democrats. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #11
Shoot, they'll be more people at Walmart that day than show up to vote for the boob. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #16
Just one or all of them? panader0 Aug 2016 #22
Sadly, a whole lot of walmart shoppers show up to vote in my japple Aug 2016 #39
couldn't resist deancr Aug 2016 #33
Trump has no credible ground game. Koinos Aug 2016 #7
Trump's betting it all on free media, celebrity and racial/ethic hatred. We will GOTV everywhere! nt TeamPooka Aug 2016 #13
This is true. stopbush Aug 2016 #25
It's telling that he is holding rallies in places like Oklahoma and Alabama NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #8
Trump is in solid-blue Maine today because he thinks stopbush Aug 2016 #10
He'll campaign in Alaska so he can see Putin better. Koinos Aug 2016 #21
Despite this we must not be complacent and vote for Hillary on November 8th kimbutgar Aug 2016 #12
No one is complacent. No one. And no one is going to be complacent. stopbush Aug 2016 #18
I never saw that thread about complacency my bad. kimbutgar Aug 2016 #26
I hope Hillary has plans for poll ads all along the way, showing the numbers and ending with, anamandujano Aug 2016 #20
I believe that Democrats' goals have changed. Koinos Aug 2016 #23
Kick kimbutgar Aug 2016 #28
Deep dive into PA polling... brooklynite Aug 2016 #14
Hot damn! Keep talking #TraitorTrump! Keep talking! (And Dems: KEEP WORKING!!) Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #19
Yay!! He's toast in PA. Heard some local radio talking head in Pgh. livetohike Aug 2016 #29
how about NC? barbtries Aug 2016 #15
we still have 3 months to go, that's a painfully long time 0rganism Aug 2016 #24
Yep. Hopefully he continues to self-destruct! GreenPartyVoter Aug 2016 #31
Does it make me superstitious or cautious prarie deem Aug 2016 #30
There's no such thing as karma, and nobody tempted fate stopbush Aug 2016 #32
Johnny, tell me again which state could have put Gore over the top in 2000? ffr Aug 2016 #34
Georgia, is very pink and may be gathering a slight purple tinge. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #36
Do NOT forget Michael DUKAKIS polls. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #35
99 days of this to go bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #40
NBC-WSJ Poll Hillary +9 Johnny2X2X Aug 2016 #41
This is insane, Trump has been on the real campaign trail for less than 2 weeks. apnu Aug 2016 #43
My dream (and I hope it's not just a dream) Mr.Bill Aug 2016 #45

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
42. If thinking Hillary has a good chance of winning is complacency
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:25 PM
Aug 2016

...then I am guilty. But I well know we can't take anything for granted and that I won't rest easy until we're sure that charlatan is voted O-U-T



tecelote

(5,122 posts)
37. I don't think Trump will make it to November.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 05:49 PM
Aug 2016

I'm scared. I'll admit it.

We're not winning by a wide enough margin.

A new candidate could wreck havoc.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
44. He just has to make it to September.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:36 PM
Aug 2016

After that they can't replace him and the Rethugs will be stuck with NOTHING!

Response to MichiganVote (Reply #9)

japple

(9,834 posts)
39. Sadly, a whole lot of walmart shoppers show up to vote in my
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 05:58 PM
Aug 2016

redneck corner of NW Georgia. I see respected folks from my community--nurses, doctors, ministers, teachers, city/county admins. posting their support for Drumpf all day every day. They are in the majority in the bible belt.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
7. Trump has no credible ground game.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:22 PM
Aug 2016

Hillary has her ground game plus Obama's. Trump is a rank amateur at campaigning, and I doubt that he can beat two first-rate seasoned campaigns working together. While Trump is tweeting, Hillary is registering voters.

TeamPooka

(24,236 posts)
13. Trump's betting it all on free media, celebrity and racial/ethic hatred. We will GOTV everywhere! nt
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:33 PM
Aug 2016

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
10. Trump is in solid-blue Maine today because he thinks
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:26 PM
Aug 2016

he can wrest ONE electoral vote from that state (they have proportional awarding of electoral votes).

He's wasting time and resources he doesn't have to waste.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
21. He'll campaign in Alaska so he can see Putin better.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:45 PM
Aug 2016

How many electoral votes does Russia have?

Campaigning in blue and red states is a plus for him, since he loses votes in practically every place he campaigns. If he loses votes in a blue state, it doesn't matter. If he loses some votes in a red state, the majority will still vote for him. If he loses votes in a swing state, that may be enough to tip the balance toward Clinton.

kimbutgar

(21,172 posts)
12. Despite this we must not be complacent and vote for Hillary on November 8th
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:32 PM
Aug 2016

If we stay home Cheeto could still win. The hateful, disgusting racists will still be voting for the con man. They are not going away and they are going to lose their $hit is Cheeto is defeated in a landslide. Cheeto will say the election was rigged even if the win by Hillary is hugge!

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
20. I hope Hillary has plans for poll ads all along the way, showing the numbers and ending with,
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:45 PM
Aug 2016

"WE MUST MAKE IT REAL BY VOTING."

Hopefully if the electorate gets used to seeing these ads, they will also have it etched in their minds to vote come hell or high agua.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
23. I believe that Democrats' goals have changed.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:49 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Thu Aug 4, 2016, 05:25 PM - Edit history (1)

It is no longer a matter of merely winning. We are aiming at a landslide to beat Trump to a pulp and to retake the Senate and the House. I for one feel more motivated than ever before in my life to help give the Republicans a sound drubbing.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
14. Deep dive into PA polling...
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:35 PM
Aug 2016
McKay Coppins ?@mckaycoppins 5 minutes ago
Remarkable polling tidbit about Philly suburbs via @SteveKornacki:
In 2012 Obama beat Romney there 54-45
Clinton is now beating Trump 60-20

livetohike

(22,154 posts)
29. Yay!! He's toast in PA. Heard some local radio talking head in Pgh.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:57 PM
Aug 2016

today, who is right wing and he hates Trump. The majority of callers were voting for Hillary (whom he also hates).

prarie deem

(115 posts)
30. Does it make me superstitious or cautious
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 05:19 PM
Aug 2016

to cringe when I see these kind of pronouncements? I think complacency could give them openings plus 3 months is an eternity in poltics. I agree that if he keeps his daily fucks ups, we are good but who knows what will come up, real or fake that they will use. Maybe my fear comes from years observing the you are so seldom surprised when you over estimate the stupidity of the American electorate.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
32. There's no such thing as karma, and nobody tempted fate
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 05:33 PM
Aug 2016

when they declared the Titanic to be unsinkable.

We need to stop concerning ourselves that there exist imaginary, conscious forces that are sitting out there to provide justice after death and deserved comeuppance to those who dare to tempt fate. That's all superstition/religion-based bullshit.

When it comes to not getting out to vote in November, there is a much greater chance of that happening with voters who have become despondent and have given up on their clearly losing candidate than is the chance that people backing a projected winner will stay home because they feel their vote isn't needed, if for no other reason than people like to back a winner, not a loser.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
34. Johnny, tell me again which state could have put Gore over the top in 2000?
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 05:43 PM
Aug 2016

...that he also lost very closely. Which state was that with its 4 electoral votes?

Nevada

Why its important to push pink states and allocate resources to turn them blue, wonderful blue.



bucolic_frolic

(43,236 posts)
40. 99 days of this to go
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:06 PM
Aug 2016

Let's keep our edge, not count our chickens

Let's push ourselves to excel

Democratic county committees are everywhere, needing help

Turnout is everything

apnu

(8,758 posts)
43. This is insane, Trump has been on the real campaign trail for less than 2 weeks.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:29 PM
Aug 2016

I don't think anything like his has ever happened in American history.

Mr.Bill

(24,311 posts)
45. My dream (and I hope it's not just a dream)
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:57 PM
Aug 2016

is for Hillary to win Texas. That would be twisting the knife.

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