2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJudge Curiel Rules Trump Must Face Trial for Racketeering in Trump University Suit
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/2/1556038/-Judge-Curiel-Rules-Trump-Must-Face-Trial-for-Racketeering-in-Trump-University-Suit?detail=facebookFederal District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel has ruled that Donald J. Trump, founder of Trump University, must face civil trial for fraud and racketeering under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO). Trump had moved for summary judgment in a last-ditch effort to block a class-action trial scheduled to begin right after the national election.
Denying the motion, Judge Curiel ruled that there were genuine issues of material fact for trial as to whether Trump had personally committed fraud and racketeering. If Trump loses, he is liable for three times the damages suffered by the students who paid tuition. That is the bite of the RICO statute triple damages. This could amount to many tens of millions of dollars.
In a much less important ruling, Judge Curiel denied the plaintiffs motion to make videotapes of Trumps deposition public. The transcripts are already public, and have been for several weeks, having been made public by Judge Curiel in an earlier ruling. Judge Curiel ruled that while the public has an interest in watching his demeanor, it is not the usual practice to make videotapes public before trial, and the public already has the ability to read his words at the depositions.
Judge Curiel is presiding over two separate class-action lawsuits. In both cases, the court has certified the suit as a class action and has denied motions to dismiss. The first, Low v. Trump University, sues the institution Trump University as well as Trump personally on many different theories of recovery, including misrepresentation, breach of contract, and taking advantage of seniors. The second, Cohen v. Trump, is a far more surgical in its approach it sues Trump individually for fraud and racketeering under the federal RICO statute, and relies no other theory of recovery. ....more
jcgoldie
(11,635 posts)sarcasm.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)and timely.
Wednesdays
(17,389 posts)Considering all the calls during the repug convention to "Lock her up!"
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Unfortunately, he can't go to jail, although conceivably the trial could uncover criminal activity. Something to look forward to, though, is that Trump will have to reveal his net worth.
marybourg
(12,633 posts)presiding over your case! (sarcasm)
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Trump obviously never read Dale Carneige! Maybe he read Cale Darneige's book "How to lose friends and really piss off people." and took it to heart.
PJMcK
(22,038 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,850 posts)Wow!
He could end up paying treble damages, attorneys fees, and costs.
This is not a simple fraud case.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)losing could definitely affect his lifestyle.
trueblue2007
(17,232 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,153 posts)What do those crazy clowns have to say about their Fuhrer running a scam "university"? After all, THEY are the ones getting sucked into these scams! WTF?
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)about this at all. Not a peep.
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)His ego won't allow him to let it pass without a wild-eyed tweet.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)Mention it on the air tonight. If Hillary was going through this they would be talking about it all day long.
red dog 1
(27,837 posts)By doing what I will be doing...sending them all e-mails ASKING them to mention it on their respective shows.
I believe the best way to get through to them is via their show's producers.
I don't have time to list their e-mail addresses now, , but just Google them, go to their show's websites, and look for "Contact" info.
This HAS to be talked about by ALL "progressive" talk show hosts..NOW!
calimary
(81,383 posts)I've made a pest of myself with the MSNBC folks by now, I'm sure.
SheriffBob
(552 posts)wilco and out.
sheshe2
(83,833 posts)Sounds more like debtors prison to me!
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)TeamPooka
(24,237 posts)I know it's a civil trial.
Mme. Defarge
(8,036 posts)So why isn't this getting more attention in the press?
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Start hammering media outlets. DU activism needs to kick it up.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)IronLionZion
(45,474 posts)and the IRS is auditing his tax returns because he's a good Christian. There is nothing suspicious at all. Nothing to see here...
barbtries
(28,808 posts)will any of his supporters jump ship now?
packman
(16,296 posts)getagrip_already
(14,795 posts)That's two trials the cheeto don will face for fraud and racketeering after the election.
He also has to appear in court in september to face the judge in a trial where he is accused of raping a woman who says she was 13 years old; she has a witness to boot.
His opponent won't be charged with any crime, and isn't being sued for anything.
And we are supposed to believe him why?
red dog 1
(27,837 posts)I hadn't heard about that one.
getagrip_already
(14,795 posts)9/9/2016 all defendants MUST appear before judge. Trump and epsteinj listed as defendendents.
Cosmic Dancer
(70 posts)from the media or Clinton about the rape suit, why? Must be that liberal media thing!
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Botany
(70,539 posts)"If Trump loses, he is liable for three times the damages suffered by the students
who paid tuition." This could be
huge!
groundloop
(11,520 posts)I can hear it now, "the Mexican judge hates me because I insulted him, therefore I'm going to file for a mistrial".
Hell, this is getting good.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)The great and powerful Wizard!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)Vinca
(50,299 posts)Fraud and racketeering are crimes.
red dog 1
(27,837 posts)We need to spend time contacting ALL the "progressive" news websites asking them to please cover this important story.
The New York Times covered this story yesterday (I was unable to post a link to it)
The Atlantic Magazine also covered it yesterday.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)Funny, I don't expect the Trumpians to be chanting that.