PAUL MANAFORTE ready to back Ryan for President

[SticksnStones]

Manaforte speaking to Charlie, Gayle and Norah on CBS morning show earlier today lets it slip that he'll be ready to support Paul Ryan for President next week.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/paul-manafort-endorses-paul-ryan-mistake-226657

"Look. I support the speaker and I know after next week, I'm supporting him as a candidate for president, too," Manafort said on "CBS This Morning," before quickly correcting himself amid laughter during a discussion about the Republican nominee's refusal to outright endorse the House speaker in his primary against Paul Nehlen on Tuesday.

Oops! Could there be a Plan B being discussed? Of course there is but how plausible is it?

[beachbum bob]

1. no political operative "accidently" slips...this is too funny

and if somehow trump is removed or quit...say good by to 40% of the GOP base VOTING in november...either way the GOP{ is toast....

trumps zealots will never and I mean NEVER support the RNC's decision or a replacement candidate....this is even better as they will NOT even go to the polls to VOTE

we sa yesterday Morning Joe laying the groundwork that trump is a democrat and this a planrt...and his supporters must rmeain faithful to the GOP....

[SticksnStones]

3. I could see a room full of repubs thinking

The only way we can delegitimize Trump in order to replace him is to call him the worst slur you could possibly utter: he's a democrat!

Brilliant plan fellas...please, continue ~

[beachbum bob]

6. it won't work with trump zealots because trump would NEVER go quietly.....

the gOP will be completely fractured...and 40% of their voters will be sitting in their homes and trailers on election day...making it a democratic route never seen before

[workinclasszero]

23. Yup

The republican party is doomed!

Their deal with the devil, Nixon's southern strategy, is finally coming to an end!

They are screwed either way they go and are finished as a party that can run an acceptable national candidate.

[Pisces]

44. Yes he would for the right dollar amount. He is a pig

[RapSoDee]

41. #ComradeManafort is just jerking everyone's chains

He & ComradeTrump both know this is shits and giggles for another merry whirl around the corporate infotainment cycle.

[Protalker]

2. Are we talking to Corey Lewandowski?

What do you hear at the end of an episode? Your fired!

[SticksnStones]

5. Oh the irony

The great "You're Fired" getting, in fact, fired.

A girl can dream, can't she?

[Gabi Hayes]

22. if that happens, within a day, from CNN to manafort:

you're HIRED!

[Iliyah]

4. Was he drunk?

[beachbum bob]

7. I don't think so...we can all hope it is serious at some level

[Maru Kitteh]

37. No.

Who knows what the unintended consequences could be. We have a steady path, and given the current dynamic our candidate is strongly favored to win.

Baby Donald isn't going anywhere. If they ask him to quit he's only going to push back harder, and waste more media time talking about Republicans. He's a 260lb faux-gold-plated turd of a hood ornament welded to the front of their 2005 Dodge Neon.

[SticksnStones]

9. Hard to say

His eyelids are always half drawn ~

[RKP5637]

19. ... like the lights are only half on!

[SticksnStones]

20. ..

[Ilsa]

17. No, it's just that he's running on Russia time. nt

[liberal N proud]

8. Does anyone think that Trump's ego will allow him to step down and be "REPLACED"

Do you think he will let anyone say to him: Your fired?

The GOP will be in for on hell of a fight if they try and replace Trump at this stage.

[beachbum bob]

12. of course it will be a mess..they are so screwed no matter what they do....and so much fun

to watch....


but groundwork is being laid I think....we need to know the RNC bylaws and rules as they would have something which would enable them to take actions after a candidate is selected at the convention.....if there are rules of some type...then this could seriously being considered

[Maru Kitteh]

38. RNC rule no.9 states nominee can only be replaced upon death or quitting.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/what-if-trump-quit.html

IOW, they are STUCK with him.

[SticksnStones]

14. So there's this crazy rumor on Long Island

where I live - which I'm told has possibly the greatest concentration of Trump supporters per capita than any other region in the country. Lots of republican townships and such.

And again, just a rumor, might have been something Howard Stern started but it goes something like the only reason Trump got into the race and is acting so destructively is that he WANTS to be asked to leave and his price to get out of the race is a clear path to the development rights of Jones Beach and Robert Moses Park.

He's been pushing to grow the restaurant there since 2008 and his big plan is to build a casino, have it look more like Atlantic City.

Again, just a rumor but boy, to this Long Islander it makes all his crazy (crazy like a fox!) make sense.

[Sanity Claws]

30. Even if he is given the rights, he still needs the money

No US bank will lend to him.
This is why I don't believe the rumor -- he doesn't have the money or credit to act on the rights, even if he were given them.

[SticksnStones]

33. Has he completely burned bridges with Deutsche Bank?

I dunno, it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that funding opens in exchange for him having a medical emergency requiring him to leave the race. Honorably of course.

[Sanity Claws]

34. Wouldn't it be news if he was shopping around for loans

for new business?

Anything like that would be big news, IMHO, since it would indicate that he knew he was not going to be elected.

[SticksnStones]

35. How could he possibly find the time

What with all the tweeting...

[Pisces]

45. The Kochs have money to buy him out. I don't like how radical he has been in

The last couple of days. Ratcheting up to make himself unelectable.

[Sanity Claws]

49. I suppose that is one way to get the funding to build on the rights

I hope global climate change floods whatever he builds.

[Snotcicles]

36. He my be on trial and have to. nt

[Maru Kitteh]

39. It's a civil suit, so no.

[Sunlei]

10. lol, he reuses the invade Ukraine tactic on Trump. guess the new T-tower in Moscow is a GO.

[apnu]

11. Says the guy who's running Trump's campaign into Putin's arms and into the ground.

What a piece of shit.

[Zambero]

13. Freudian slip extraordinaire

Manaforte certainly went one better than Pence, who had merely endorsed Ryan for retaining his Congressional seat. Perhaps Manaforte might prefer to manage a presidential campaign for someone other than the unmanageable Donald Trump? One can hardly blame him.

[SticksnStones]

15. I suppose if Trump did have a mental breakdown

Who else BUT Ryan could step in last minute.

Pence is a yawn.

My favorite quip by some late night host ( probably Colbert...)

" Mike Pence is so boring his Secret Service code name is Mike Pence"

[Zambero]

16. What would Trump's "change" followers do?

In what they champion as a "change" election, witnessing the epitome of the GOP establishment replacing their guy Trump at the top of the ticket would create further schism in the party. Ryan's positions on free trade and immigration policy would be anathema to them. Some would certainly choose to back whoever the GOP nominee is. Others would be ticked off and either not vote, vote for the Libertarian ticket, or (gasp) even vote for Hillary out of spite. But further splintering of the party would not help thir chances any. It's lose-lose either way.

[SticksnStones]

18. That's the best part

"It's a lose-lose either way."

Still complacency is our enemy...a landslide delegitimizes the notion it was rigged. GOTV!

[beachbum bob]

25. no such thing as a "change" supporter in the gOP...trump supporters are the fringe

conservative who wants blacks gone, womens rights repealed....end of rules and regulations....the "teaparty wing"....and if trump is ousted they WILL STAY HOME on election day....

[Iggo]

31. If Trump had a mental breakdown, how would we tell?

[ehrnst]

21. Emergency contraception for a Trump nomination. (nt)

[Snotcicles]

24. The Republican party has to run it's race like a rely because their

ideas are so bad each candidate gets worn down by the weight of carrying that garbage. They need a fresh set on legs on the final stretch. Same bad old ideas just a new lying face.

[SticksnStones]

26. Now that's a funny image...

Handing the baton off to the next candidate for president


Trump: The Change Candidate

Last minute Ryan: Spare Change

[Snotcicles]

27. The Orange cat dumps in the litter box. When finished. The Calico one steps in to cover the turd. nt

[whatthehey]

28. While not impossible, it's all but.

And yes he'd be a much tougher opponent.

But to get there they have to get Trump to a)stand down and b) throw wholehearted support behind Ryan. If they abuse the definition of "otherwise" in rule 9 and depose him the Trumpenproletariat will go nuts and abandon the GOP for decades. Even if he decides quitting is better on the hypersensitive hyperinflated ego than getting shellacked by a woman no less and just steps down voluntarily and does nothing else, his unthinking horde will still be disheartened and whiny enough about "rigging" to tank 2016 and probably 2020. Only if he personally frames it as a better move to "make America great," a tricky proposition even for an orator who actually possesess nuance and guile after saying "only I can fix it" will they even possibly support plan b (although admittedly that would energize plenty of nevertrumpers on he right, but they are not as numerous, QED primaries.)

Does he have the political savvy, sense and wider view to do this? It is to laugh. Do the Kochs and Adelson have enough money to pay him to fake it on a tight script? Quite possibly, but at this point it's a slim chance that they will take the risk, he will take the demotion, and his minions will take the hint.

[SticksnStones]

32. While I agree Ryan would be tougher

In a debate. Primarily because he's able to form complete sentences, one after another...

Still, I can't help shake the idea that Trump can be bought off. I mentioned the rumor (upthread) that he wants Jones Beach development rights...so while I don't think they can push him out, I do believe some story is being concocted along with a portfolio of parting gifts in order to send him packing. He may have a huge ego, but I think it's surpassed by his innate greed. And there might be a story convincing enough that the party would retain some of his less ardent supporters. Ryan would certainly bring back what's left of the moderate republican vote.

Just not enough to beat Hillary though. So for our side, whatever they do, if we navigate it wisely and GOTV, it's a win.

[PatrickforO]

29. You know, just a bit of history you all might be interested in.

There was a time when the Catholic Church had two Popes that could both legitimately claim to be the leader of the Church. It is called the Western Great Schism, and it began on September 20, 1378 when the same college of cardinals elected Clement VII in Avignon, France. Trouble was they had just elected another guy six months earlier. So, the other guy was the Pope and Clement was the 'Anti-Pope.'

I was just thinking that this scenario could play out here with Trump as the 'legitimate' pope and Ryan as the anti-pope of the Republican Party!

[Native]

40. How is this considered misspeaking?

[SticksnStones]

42. I'd say he wasn't supposed to mention Ryan running

So it was a mistake to have spoken about it.

Letting the proverbial cat out of the bag, as it were ~

[Native]

43. That's an interesting take on the word!

I always thought it just meant that you'd said something inaccurately. I like your interpretation much better.

[SticksnStones]

48. ..

[Hekate]

46. Not The Onion? Not satire? Please, don't toy with us!

[SticksnStones]

47. Not the Onion

Here's a link to Manafort's interview on CBS, The Morning Show

The slip comes around 5:45 in the clip.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-manafort-weighs-in-on-trumps-support-for-paul-ryan/