2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDonald Trump Can Go to Hell and If You Defend His Statement, So Can You.
(the person who wrote this is an extremely conservative writer who's always been #NeverTrump)
http://theresurgent.com/donald-trump-can-go-to-hell-and-if-you-defend-this-so-can-you/
That is Donald Trump asking if NATO countries have paid if they want American protection from a potential Russian invasion.
Do you people supporting Trump know the only time NATO has ever invoked Article 5 of the 1949 Washington Treaty that established NATO? Thats the article that recognizes an attack on one NATO ally as an attack on all NATO allies requiring defense.
Do you Cheeto Jesus worshipping fools have any idea? Your orange god, of all people, should know.
The only time NATO has ever invoked Article 5 and rushed to the aid of a NATO ally in response to an attack was on September 11, 2001. On that day, monsters murdered 2,977 people in New York City; Washington, DC; and Shanksville, PA.
Almost 3,000 Americans were murdered by monsters and our NATO allies for the first time in the history of the NATO Alliance rose as one and defended American airspace and American interests around the entire freaking world while we wrestled with what had happened.
Donald Trump wants to turn NATO into a damn shakedown scheme and you people are cheering him on. You should be ashamed of yourselves. You should be ashamed of the fact that your cult leader who claims to have been personally affected by 9/11 does not even know our NATO allies protected his ass that day. You should be ashamed that he wants to turn one of the strongest military alliances in the history of the world into a racket where protection is bought. You should be ashamed that you are not ashamed.
These are allies. They are not vassal states. These are friends. Our promises do not require shakedowns. We are not the global bully demanding lunch money for protection. We are the shining city on the hill.
You people reflect the evil character of your god. You should be ashamed, but you have no shame left. You all deserve to be defeated and annihilated. You disgust me in cheering him on. He disgusts me.
On September 11, 2001, our NATO allies surrounded our nation and our nations interests globally while we buried our dead and you people cheer that braying jackass on ignorant of that fact and demanding money from our allies.
Donald Trump can go to hell and perhaps you will do the rest of us a favor and follow him there.
Shame on you all. Shame on you.
(emphasis added)
http://theresurgent.com/donald-trump-can-go-to-hell-and-if-you-defend-this-so-can-you/
It should be socially unacceptable to be a Trump supporter or voter.
anoNY42
(670 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,012 posts)And they fully deserve all they're getting.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)These outraged conservatives are totally right about the orange monster...but...
They created him! They vowed to never work with President Obama and for going on 8 years have kept that promise while their bagger base suffered the consequences of their Washington pols doing zero for them and the rest of the country.
Fox news and Hate radio's 24/7/365 hate and outrage running like filth from a sewer tells these people that the mainstream pols are the enemy and the only way to go is right of Adolf Hitler!
So now the enraged republican mob finally has their cheeto god and the few somewhat rational republicans left don't like it?
They built Trump!!!!!!!!
If the TrumpenFührer doesn't get elected (please God) the howling teabagger mob will nominate someone even worse the next time!
get the red out
(13,468 posts)They have cultivated their garden of ignorance, and now they cry!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The next creep they put up for Prez will be worse than Trump!
get the red out
(13,468 posts)Trump is already saying the election is rigged, and it's 3 months away. The preparations are being made for them to be even angrier.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)They already have their excuse for Trump losing..."rigged" election.
And believe me these same smary assholes that are disowning Trump now will be beating this drum 24/7 till the next election!
Because..outrage sells lots of books and gets lots of eyeballs on Fox and ears on Hate radio!
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)again and again and again.
His followers really concern me-- dumdum gets them all riled up-- a very dangerous thing to do.
In a sense, he's programming them to carry out his will, whatever that is. Nothing good, we can be sure.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The Republican party is going to tear itself apart after the election--look at what they're doing when they think they have a chance.
The more division in their ranks, the better.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)The disease is the ignorant, know-nothing, racist, misogynist, bigoted base of talaborn-again idiots that make up the base of the republican party and to whom they've been throwing red meat to for 40 years because their economic policies simply do not benefit enough people to be a viable stand alone platform for a national party.
malaise
(269,103 posts)you end up with Don the Con.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)I admit I'm the skeptical type who immediately looks for corroborating sources when people make "only once," "never" and "always" types of claims. And it wasn't hard to find in this case. That is the only time the Article has been invoked. Disappointed in myself that I did not know that.
Thanks for sharing!
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Thats it. Wow
oberliner
(58,724 posts)One of the most vile, disgusting human beings on the planet.
Are you aware of what he has said and written about the Clintons and Obamas?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Trump's appeal is only to those without any kind of political or moral principles
AllyCat
(16,197 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)He still says Hillary Clinton is worse than Trump.
In fact, he says he understands why people would vote for Trump to stop Hillary, but he cannot understand any Republican voting for Hillary no matter how much they dislike Trump.
Here are the tweets:
Erick Erickson ✔@EWErickson
2. I totally get it and am sympathetic to the idea that you have concluded Trump is better than Hillary so you will vote for him. I get it.
Erick Erickson ✔@EWErickson
3. I disagree with you. I think they are equally terrible. But I do not hold it against anyone for coming to the opposite conclusion.
Erick Erickson ✔@EWErickson
4. For the life of me, however, I do not understand any Republican voting for Hillary Clinton.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)He disagrees that Hillary Clinton is worse than the Republican nominee. Which, for a hardcore rightwing, (until recently) lifelong Republican activist is a pretty big statement.
And he does save his most extreme vitriol for Trump and the Trumpkins.
Do you disagree with anything in this piece?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He in fact disparages any Republican who considers doing so.
My point is that he is a vile, despicable human being who thinks Hillary should be in jail and thinks Obama is a secret Muslim.
He is not some kind of principled Republican who is taking a stand against Trump for any kind of admirable reasons. The reason he was a "NeverTrump" in the first place was because he thought Trump was too liberal and wasn't a real conservative.
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)"stopped clock" moment. But it's a pretty good rant.
I agree with you about the rest.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)reprehensible, so vile, so unhinged, so ignorant, so unqualified, so just plain shitty that they don't depend on "he's too liberal."
Here, the dead on critique is that Trump wants to turn the US military into enforcers for an American global mafia enterprise.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Do you understand who this person is?
In 2012, he also opposed Mitt Romney because he thought he was too liberal.
Are you aware of the things he has said about Clinton, Obama, even moderate Republicans?
Do you know that he was an ardent supporter of Ted Cruz?
He is a right-wing lunatic bully.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)PatSeg
(47,547 posts)And the republican party has wooed these extremists for years. It led to the Tea Party and now Trump. Republicans should have said "Never" a long time ago to ignorance, bigotry, intolerance, and hate, but instead they cultivated it for votes. You reap what you sow.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)That watered the tree of lies and hate that brought forth the monster Trump.
And now wants to wash his hands clean and pretend he had nothing to do with it.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That is who Erickson and his ilk supported in the primary.
Can you imagine if Ted Cruz was the Republican candidate?
He would be even further to the right and would have the support of the Erick Erickson types.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Cruz is just as bad as Trump, no doubt about it.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)He is a damned theocrat, he would like to be an autocratic one as much as Trump.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)They all spewed the weirdest right-wingnut crap I ever heard in my lifetime.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)but stupidity is deliberate..............
Saved!
randome
(34,845 posts)Have to give him props for that one.
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ffr
(22,671 posts)Excellent and compelling.
Nitram
(22,843 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)Oh well, my life.
PatrickforO
(14,585 posts)But, for sure, as Bill Maher says, the Hillary train is going where we want to go, but it may be a little slower than we'd like.
The Trump train is going to.....hell.
I mean did you SEE the articles about Trump repeatedly asking why the US doesn't use nuclear weapons? Asking if we don't use them, then why do we make them?
Sigh.
This guy is far too comfortable with mutually assured destruction. He'll get us all killed.
boomer55
(592 posts)unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)Uh, they weren't monsters, they were Arab. This article is racist...
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)just like Adolf Eichmann was a monster.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)Whether they are Arabs, white Americans (e.g. Tim McVeigh), Norwegians (Anders Breivik) or little green men from Mars. It's the act that makes the monster, not the race or nationality.
yardwork
(61,678 posts)However, there is a factual error in Erickson's column. Many of the 2,996 people murdered that day were citizens of other countries, not just the U.S.
9/11 was an attack on the world, not just the U.S.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)What specifically leads you to that unsupported conclusion? Are mass murderers not monstrous by virtue of a particular race?
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Hekate
(90,750 posts)rivegauche
(601 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)socially acceptable to be a blatant racist, misogynist pig who rejects facts and replaces them with whateverthefuck the RW tells them is true.
That's a big part of their martyr complex. They feel oppressed because they aren't supposed to say the Nword anymore, and they can't force others to say Merry Christmas, and in ever so many other ways they are just trodden upon by all those awful liberals who made the ignorant cretinous bigots feel bad about themselves.
Donnie gives them back their self-confidence! His campaign slogan really ought to be:
Have pity upon the poor put-upon Right Wingers.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Donald J. Trump
Separation
(1,975 posts)It was when he acted out like he had a physical disease and was shaking while he talked about the reporter who actually had it. This mother fucker seems to think he can either say "Just kidding" to anything he say and will be forgiven, or that he was misquoted.
That was the first time that I knew this man was evil.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Stuck in a WWII John Wayne movie, they don't notice social injustice, corporate theft of $$$ and land, wage slavery, billionaire tax evasion, environmental destruction, destruction of the social safety nets, etcetera, etcetera.
We're the shining city on the hill?
A city that ends corporate regulations, installs corporate shills in the Supreme Court, destroys public schooling, refuses to pay labor and destroys the Unions who are meant to protect worker rights...a city that bars negotiating for better pharmaceutical prices and better pay, that privatizes prisons and that allows lobbyists to infiltrate governance, that dismantles agencies and institutions that provide aid to the poor, mentally ill, and the disabled, that lines billionaires pockets with money meant to serve ordinary people.....
That is no shining city on a hill.
The conservative mindset astounds me with its inability to consider the cumulative effect of actions over time and over demographics. They ignore the innumerable forces that have led to current circumstances.
To them, everything is a two-dimensional, superficial image they absorbed from self-congratulating, homogenized white-bread, post-war, industrialized, mass produced, commercialized 1950's culture.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)one thing to have one individual like Trump embarrassing the nation, quite another when so many, for whatever ignorant reason, blindly support and cheer him on. Every one of his apologists that make stuff up to defend him should be immediately and publicly challenged with the proof of their lies. Expose the lies- force them to be ashamed.
SunSeeker
(51,584 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)Well done!