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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:26 AM Aug 2016

Donald Trump Can Go to Hell and If You Defend His Statement, So Can You.

(the person who wrote this is an extremely conservative writer who's always been #NeverTrump)

http://theresurgent.com/donald-trump-can-go-to-hell-and-if-you-defend-this-so-can-you/

I must apologize, but I have reached that point with this news and it now pushes me beyond contempt into outright hatred and moral indignation against those of you continuing to defend this monster.

That is Donald Trump asking if NATO countries “have paid” if they want American protection from a potential Russian invasion.

Do you people supporting Trump know the only time NATO has ever invoked Article 5 of the 1949 Washington Treaty that established NATO? That’s the article that recognizes an attack on one NATO ally as an attack on all NATO allies requiring defense.

Do you Cheeto Jesus worshipping fools have any idea? Your orange god, of all people, should know.

The only time NATO has ever invoked Article 5 and rushed to the aid of a NATO ally in response to an attack was on September 11, 2001. On that day, monsters murdered 2,977 people in New York City; Washington, DC; and Shanksville, PA.

Almost 3,000 Americans were murdered by monsters and our NATO allies for the first time in the history of the NATO Alliance rose as one and defended American airspace and American interests around the entire freaking world while we wrestled with what had happened.

Donald Trump wants to turn NATO into a damn shakedown scheme and you people are cheering him on. You should be ashamed of yourselves. You should be ashamed of the fact that your cult leader who claims to have been personally affected by 9/11 does not even know our NATO allies protected his ass that day. You should be ashamed that he wants to turn one of the strongest military alliances in the history of the world into a racket where protection is bought. You should be ashamed that you are not ashamed.

These are allies. They are not vassal states. These are friends. Our promises do not require shakedowns. We are not the global bully demanding lunch money for protection. We are the shining city on the hill.

You people reflect the evil character of your god. You should be ashamed, but you have no shame left. You all deserve to be defeated and annihilated. You disgust me in cheering him on. He disgusts me.

On September 11, 2001, our NATO allies surrounded our nation and our nation’s interests globally while we buried our dead and you people cheer that braying jackass on ignorant of that fact and demanding money from our allies.

Donald Trump can go to hell and perhaps you will do the rest of us a favor and follow him there.

Shame on you all. Shame on you.

(emphasis added)

http://theresurgent.com/donald-trump-can-go-to-hell-and-if-you-defend-this-so-can-you/

It should be socially unacceptable to be a Trump supporter or voter.
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Donald Trump Can Go to Hell and If You Defend His Statement, So Can You. (Original Post) geek tragedy Aug 2016 OP
Always good to learn something new. nt anoNY42 Aug 2016 #1
Conservatives cultivated their dim witted mob C_U_L8R Aug 2016 #2
This is what I don't understand workinclasszero Aug 2016 #19
Exactly! get the red out Aug 2016 #29
And they will do it all over again and again and again! workinclasszero Aug 2016 #31
YES! get the red out Aug 2016 #33
Right workinclasszero Aug 2016 #35
Then it will be like the birth certificate (only 100 times worse) when we keep hearing about it ailsagirl Aug 2016 #46
which is why we have to not only defeat but humiliate Trump, and the Republican party. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #34
Exactly - Trump is not the disease infesting the republican party - he is merely a symptom. Salviati Aug 2016 #50
When ignorance is promoted as bliss malaise Aug 2016 #3
Scathing liberal N proud Aug 2016 #4
Wow, I hold the same position regarding NATO, but had no idea about Article 5. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 #5
Wow Soxfan58 Aug 2016 #6
This is Erick Erickson oberliner Aug 2016 #7
yes. but as a wingnut he doesn't hate Clinton enough to hope for her to lose to Trump geek tragedy Aug 2016 #8
Ding ding! AllyCat Aug 2016 #9
Yes, he does oberliner Aug 2016 #11
he is a Wingnut who is virulently opposed to the Republican nominee getting elected geek tragedy Aug 2016 #12
Not enough to vote for Hillary oberliner Aug 2016 #15
This may be his ONE BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #17
there are a number of reasons for Republicans to be #NeverTrump--he's so unprincipled, so geek tragedy Aug 2016 #18
Those are not Erick Erickson's reasons oberliner Aug 2016 #21
I am fully aware of who Erick, son of Erick is, nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #24
He is a reflection of the people who support him PatSeg Aug 2016 #23
Erick Erickson another damned republican workinclasszero Aug 2016 #20
Ted Cruz is also a monster oberliner Aug 2016 #22
Agree 100% workinclasszero Aug 2016 #25
Yep get the red out Aug 2016 #28
All the repug candidates were reprehensible mdbl Aug 2016 #56
Ignorance may be bliss, raven mad Aug 2016 #10
"You should be ashamed that you are not ashamed." randome Aug 2016 #13
That's one of the finest word strings I've seen recently ffr Aug 2016 #40
Truth! Nitram Aug 2016 #14
ugh, im starting to feel proud that im voting Hillary. nt retrowire Aug 2016 #16
it's okay, no one will judge you for it nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #27
lol im sure some are already. retrowire Aug 2016 #41
I did not know that about NATO. PatrickforO Aug 2016 #26
Wow boomer55 Aug 2016 #30
This truth cannot be spread enough! unitedwethrive Aug 2016 #32
"Almost 3,000 Americans were murdered by monsters" MadDAsHell Aug 2016 #36
They were monsters, just like Pol Pot was a monster geek tragedy Aug 2016 #38
All mass murderers are monsters. LeftishBrit Aug 2016 #42
Good try, but no. Mass murderers can fairly be called monsters. yardwork Aug 2016 #44
What specifically leads you to that unsupported conclusion? LanternWaste Aug 2016 #48
Wow and from one of the worst RWers amuse bouche Aug 2016 #37
KnR geek Hekate Aug 2016 #39
Oh I loved reading that. STANDING OVATION!! eom rivegauche Aug 2016 #43
But the Great RW Propaganda Machine has spent a lot of time and money to make it Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2016 #45
If you are the party of hate and fear what would you create?? Angry Dragon Aug 2016 #47
For me, it was waaay before this comment. Separation Aug 2016 #49
That was a singularly depraved moment in American political life - nt KingCharlemagne Aug 2016 #52
Frikken CONservatives---the only thing that gets their attention is foreign attacks. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #51
So glad I read this. It is Enoki33 Aug 2016 #53
Saying you're a Trump supporter is like farting in public. nt SunSeeker Aug 2016 #54
That screed nearly melted my monitor. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #55
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. This is what I don't understand
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:54 AM
Aug 2016

These outraged conservatives are totally right about the orange monster...but...

They created him! They vowed to never work with President Obama and for going on 8 years have kept that promise while their bagger base suffered the consequences of their Washington pols doing zero for them and the rest of the country.

Fox news and Hate radio's 24/7/365 hate and outrage running like filth from a sewer tells these people that the mainstream pols are the enemy and the only way to go is right of Adolf Hitler!

So now the enraged republican mob finally has their cheeto god and the few somewhat rational republicans left don't like it?

They built Trump!!!!!!!!

If the TrumpenFührer doesn't get elected (please God) the howling teabagger mob will nominate someone even worse the next time!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
31. And they will do it all over again and again and again!
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:30 AM
Aug 2016

The next creep they put up for Prez will be worse than Trump!

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
33. YES!
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:34 AM
Aug 2016

Trump is already saying the election is rigged, and it's 3 months away. The preparations are being made for them to be even angrier.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
35. Right
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:48 AM
Aug 2016

They already have their excuse for Trump losing..."rigged" election.

And believe me these same smary assholes that are disowning Trump now will be beating this drum 24/7 till the next election!

Because..outrage sells lots of books and gets lots of eyeballs on Fox and ears on Hate radio!

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
46. Then it will be like the birth certificate (only 100 times worse) when we keep hearing about it
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 03:13 PM
Aug 2016

again and again and again.

His followers really concern me-- dumdum gets them all riled up-- a very dangerous thing to do.

In a sense, he's programming them to carry out his will, whatever that is. Nothing good, we can be sure.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
34. which is why we have to not only defeat but humiliate Trump, and the Republican party.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:35 AM
Aug 2016

The Republican party is going to tear itself apart after the election--look at what they're doing when they think they have a chance.

The more division in their ranks, the better.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
50. Exactly - Trump is not the disease infesting the republican party - he is merely a symptom.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:41 PM
Aug 2016

The disease is the ignorant, know-nothing, racist, misogynist, bigoted base of talaborn-again idiots that make up the base of the republican party and to whom they've been throwing red meat to for 40 years because their economic policies simply do not benefit enough people to be a viable stand alone platform for a national party.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
5. Wow, I hold the same position regarding NATO, but had no idea about Article 5.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:35 AM
Aug 2016

I admit I'm the skeptical type who immediately looks for corroborating sources when people make "only once," "never" and "always" types of claims. And it wasn't hard to find in this case. That is the only time the Article has been invoked. Disappointed in myself that I did not know that.

Thanks for sharing!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. This is Erick Erickson
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:14 AM
Aug 2016

One of the most vile, disgusting human beings on the planet.

Are you aware of what he has said and written about the Clintons and Obamas?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. yes. but as a wingnut he doesn't hate Clinton enough to hope for her to lose to Trump
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:28 AM
Aug 2016

Trump's appeal is only to those without any kind of political or moral principles

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Yes, he does
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:42 AM
Aug 2016

He still says Hillary Clinton is worse than Trump.

In fact, he says he understands why people would vote for Trump to stop Hillary, but he cannot understand any Republican voting for Hillary no matter how much they dislike Trump.

Here are the tweets:

Erick Erickson ✔@EWErickson
2. I totally get it and am sympathetic to the idea that you have concluded Trump is better than Hillary so you will vote for him. I get it.

Erick Erickson ✔@EWErickson
3. I disagree with you. I think they are equally terrible. But I do not hold it against anyone for coming to the opposite conclusion.

Erick Erickson ✔@EWErickson
4. For the life of me, however, I do not understand any Republican voting for Hillary Clinton.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. he is a Wingnut who is virulently opposed to the Republican nominee getting elected
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:44 AM
Aug 2016

He disagrees that Hillary Clinton is worse than the Republican nominee. Which, for a hardcore rightwing, (until recently) lifelong Republican activist is a pretty big statement.

And he does save his most extreme vitriol for Trump and the Trumpkins.

Do you disagree with anything in this piece?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. Not enough to vote for Hillary
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:52 AM
Aug 2016

He in fact disparages any Republican who considers doing so.

My point is that he is a vile, despicable human being who thinks Hillary should be in jail and thinks Obama is a secret Muslim.

He is not some kind of principled Republican who is taking a stand against Trump for any kind of admirable reasons. The reason he was a "NeverTrump" in the first place was because he thought Trump was too liberal and wasn't a real conservative.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
17. This may be his ONE
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:26 AM
Aug 2016

"stopped clock" moment. But it's a pretty good rant.

I agree with you about the rest.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. there are a number of reasons for Republicans to be #NeverTrump--he's so unprincipled, so
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:53 AM
Aug 2016

reprehensible, so vile, so unhinged, so ignorant, so unqualified, so just plain shitty that they don't depend on "he's too liberal."

Here, the dead on critique is that Trump wants to turn the US military into enforcers for an American global mafia enterprise.




 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. Those are not Erick Erickson's reasons
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:06 AM
Aug 2016

Do you understand who this person is?

In 2012, he also opposed Mitt Romney because he thought he was too liberal.

Are you aware of the things he has said about Clinton, Obama, even moderate Republicans?

Do you know that he was an ardent supporter of Ted Cruz?

He is a right-wing lunatic bully.

PatSeg

(47,547 posts)
23. He is a reflection of the people who support him
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:09 AM
Aug 2016

And the republican party has wooed these extremists for years. It led to the Tea Party and now Trump. Republicans should have said "Never" a long time ago to ignorance, bigotry, intolerance, and hate, but instead they cultivated it for votes. You reap what you sow.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
20. Erick Erickson another damned republican
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:58 AM
Aug 2016

That watered the tree of lies and hate that brought forth the monster Trump.

And now wants to wash his hands clean and pretend he had nothing to do with it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. Ted Cruz is also a monster
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:08 AM
Aug 2016

That is who Erickson and his ilk supported in the primary.

Can you imagine if Ted Cruz was the Republican candidate?

He would be even further to the right and would have the support of the Erick Erickson types.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
56. All the repug candidates were reprehensible
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 06:20 AM
Aug 2016

They all spewed the weirdest right-wingnut crap I ever heard in my lifetime.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. "You should be ashamed that you are not ashamed."
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:46 AM
Aug 2016

Have to give him props for that one.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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PatrickforO

(14,585 posts)
26. I did not know that about NATO.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:18 AM
Aug 2016

But, for sure, as Bill Maher says, the Hillary train is going where we want to go, but it may be a little slower than we'd like.

The Trump train is going to.....hell.

I mean did you SEE the articles about Trump repeatedly asking why the US doesn't use nuclear weapons? Asking if we don't use them, then why do we make them?

Sigh.

This guy is far too comfortable with mutually assured destruction. He'll get us all killed.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
36. "Almost 3,000 Americans were murdered by monsters"
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:12 AM
Aug 2016

Uh, they weren't monsters, they were Arab. This article is racist...

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
42. All mass murderers are monsters.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 01:39 PM
Aug 2016

Whether they are Arabs, white Americans (e.g. Tim McVeigh), Norwegians (Anders Breivik) or little green men from Mars. It's the act that makes the monster, not the race or nationality.

yardwork

(61,678 posts)
44. Good try, but no. Mass murderers can fairly be called monsters.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 02:44 PM
Aug 2016

However, there is a factual error in Erickson's column. Many of the 2,996 people murdered that day were citizens of other countries, not just the U.S.

9/11 was an attack on the world, not just the U.S.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. What specifically leads you to that unsupported conclusion?
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:22 PM
Aug 2016

What specifically leads you to that unsupported conclusion? Are mass murderers not monstrous by virtue of a particular race?

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
45. But the Great RW Propaganda Machine has spent a lot of time and money to make it
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 03:11 PM
Aug 2016

socially acceptable to be a blatant racist, misogynist pig who rejects facts and replaces them with whateverthefuck the RW tells them is true.

That's a big part of their martyr complex. They feel oppressed because they aren't supposed to say the Nword anymore, and they can't force others to say Merry Christmas, and in ever so many other ways they are just trodden upon by all those awful liberals who made the ignorant cretinous bigots feel bad about themselves.

Donnie gives them back their self-confidence! His campaign slogan really ought to be:

There's nothing wrong with being a total asshole!
(Yeah, cause it's sooo Right. Wing, that is.)

Have pity upon the poor put-upon Right Wingers.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
49. For me, it was waaay before this comment.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:28 PM
Aug 2016

It was when he acted out like he had a physical disease and was shaking while he talked about the reporter who actually had it. This mother fucker seems to think he can either say "Just kidding" to anything he say and will be forgiven, or that he was misquoted.

That was the first time that I knew this man was evil.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
51. Frikken CONservatives---the only thing that gets their attention is foreign attacks.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:27 PM
Aug 2016

Stuck in a WWII John Wayne movie, they don't notice social injustice, corporate theft of $$$ and land, wage slavery, billionaire tax evasion, environmental destruction, destruction of the social safety nets, etcetera, etcetera.

We're the shining city on the hill?

A city that ends corporate regulations, installs corporate shills in the Supreme Court, destroys public schooling, refuses to pay labor and destroys the Unions who are meant to protect worker rights...a city that bars negotiating for better pharmaceutical prices and better pay, that privatizes prisons and that allows lobbyists to infiltrate governance, that dismantles agencies and institutions that provide aid to the poor, mentally ill, and the disabled, that lines billionaires pockets with money meant to serve ordinary people.....

That is no shining city on a hill.

The conservative mindset astounds me with its inability to consider the cumulative effect of actions over time and over demographics. They ignore the innumerable forces that have led to current circumstances.

To them, everything is a two-dimensional, superficial image they absorbed from self-congratulating, homogenized white-bread, post-war, industrialized, mass produced, commercialized 1950's culture.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
53. So glad I read this. It is
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:37 AM
Aug 2016

one thing to have one individual like Trump embarrassing the nation, quite another when so many, for whatever ignorant reason, blindly support and cheer him on. Every one of his apologists that make stuff up to defend him should be immediately and publicly challenged with the proof of their lies. Expose the lies- force them to be ashamed.

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