2016 Postmortem
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(7,820 posts)I'm in CA
skylucy
(3,739 posts)crazylikafox
(2,760 posts)doc03
(35,358 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)saw it on MSNBC. Bitch is using HILLARY's campaign!
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DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)She's running on the premise of a campaign NOT HER OWN. This is a board, by the way, that supports DEMOCRATS, not GREEN.
SHE is being disrespectful by taking HRC's platform and presenting it as her own. As to her medical creds, I have absolutely NO USE whatsoever for an antivaxxer.
As to human decency, she displays her LACK of it, with the things she's done over this election season.
Given the nastiness with which she has treated HRC, including the bits she tweeted on MOTHER'S DAY about her, yes, I can and will call her a bitch.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We should also remember that unseemly insults thrown that way splash some here who will vote Democrat but sympathize with the Greens. Also, behaviors that we would despise in others, like Stein for instance, don't somehow become acceptable if we are the ones indulging.
Demsrule86
(68,620 posts)and especially Jill Stein who would elect Trump...never forget the goal of the Green Party is to elect Donald Trump...what kind of a person would want to elect a monster? The Greens are selfish useless excuses for progressives who only help Republicans. I have no doubt that just as in 2000 when the GOP funded the Greens that the money is coming from right wing sources to fund their ads today. How many people died between 2000 and 2008 because the Greens helped elect Bush? They tore Gore down for a full year...Gore=Bush...yada, yada...and then went to Florida where they did their spoiler routine and made the election close enough to steal...just what the GOP funding the Greens had hoped for...useful idiots for the Republican party.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And I rather despise most Greens too. But imo, waay to big a brush, applied with dismaying hostility.
Knowing where to draw lines, or even drawing them at all, has become a national problem. As a psychologist discussing Trump's mental disorder pointed out, we suffer as a nation from increasing disorder of national character. Turns out that indulging strongly negative emotions, like hate and intolerance to justify it, are literally addictive, giving the brain a hit of pleasure chemicals.
And more and more we're becoming a nation of addicts. It started on the right under cynical leadership intending to do just this, but is spreading to the left.
OH -- forgot to mention! Like street drugs, these natural chemicals also alter the brain chemistry itself, creating a need where once there was none.
Demsrule86
(68,620 posts)They want to elect Trump. Think about that. They were never sorry they elected bush either. They take money from Republicans in order to elect Republicans. What have the Greens ever done for progressive politics? I am from Connecticut...went to school at Uconn...hubs is from New York...the next Alumni publication had after 9-11 had paged and pages of obituaries...thanks to Bush...the Greens got him elected. I will never get over this and of course, we would not have United without the Greens 'help' in electing Bush. It is not just about Florida.They spent a year tearing down Gore and Kerry later.. This year, they are at it again...Imagine the Damage a nutter like Trump could do...but the Greens don't care...it is all about them. I have a rational basis for despising the Green Traitors as I like to call them.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Maybe we could identify a nice asylum and spend the fall badmouthing that? I hear some of them eat their own poo. Plenty of latitude for outrage there!
Btw, in this "equalizing" effort of pretend elevating these few to our level by descending to theirs, leave me out. No one who moved to the Green Party out of profound ignorance and delusion, or to spite Hillary and the Democratic Party, will get anything but dismissal from me.
Demsrule86
(68,620 posts)because they caused Democrats to lose important presidential elections and kin general act as spoilers. They know they will not win but are content to elect Republicans and they take money for this effort from Republicans. They also demoralize people before midterms as well and are responsible for much of the 'they are all the same bs'. What have they accomplished? My question to you is why in the world would you give such people the benefit of the doubt? They don't deserve it.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)many are capable of making the decisions we would expect of them, any more than Trump is. Nor should they have to.
What's with all this attention to a flakey little fringe? And the immoderate hostility drawn off from the massive threat on the right? One would think we were seriously worried they were going to elect Jill Stein president.
Please tell me that, now that the primary is over, most of this is not really just a shabby proxy war, with the Green Party as a substitute, dog-whistle target for some otherwise-safe fellow DUers past and present?
Otherwise, I can't see a reason for the excessive emotion targeting that flakey little nothing group. Laughs, yes. Have you seen who this last-resort "progressive" refuge has put up for a VP candidate?
kimbutgar
(21,172 posts)I get so much left leaning emails asking for money. Never have I ever got a Jill Stein one.
This was a big ad buy!
Who could be the money men? Koch's?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)they've supported minor candidates in the past in order to split the progressive vote. Didn't some RW groups help keep Al Sharpton in the race in 2004 because they thought it would make the Democrats as a whole look bad?
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)if you're looking at it from Karl Rove's perspective
EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)Hmm?
Demsrule86
(68,620 posts)The Greens will never be elected and only act as spoilers...they hurt progressive politics and have never helped in any election.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)beveeheart
(1,369 posts)a little while ago.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)She almost looked sane.
Almost.
dubyadiprecession
(5,719 posts)They are short of physicians. Fill this need and do some good for someone else for a change.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Do we know who paid for the ad?
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)ALL her key talking points are lifted directly from Hillary.
mopinko
(70,155 posts)jimw81
(111 posts)Response to Siwsan (Original post)
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Danmel
(4,918 posts)Eom
Eugene
(61,919 posts)IIRC, I saw it on CNN.
General theme: Trump is scary, but Hillary is even worse.
She was promising to create 16 million jobs and along and fix a long list of social issues. Paying for it was never mentioned.
BainsBane
(53,038 posts)or some similar ratfucking outfit.
Frances
(8,545 posts)are hoping to get Bernie voters to not vote for Hillary
Worked in 2000, but I think Bernie supporters will see through this effort
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)Turned me off and I turned MSNBC off
LostOne4Ever
(9,290 posts)[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#00009d]Sorry Jill I don't vote green.
I only vote BLUE.[/font]
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Democracy in action. I like it.