2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJoy Reid is doing what all journalists should do.
She interrupted a GOP guest, Amy Kramer of Women for Trump, who spewed misinformation, and gave facts. In one instance the guest claimed GDP was falling, and Joy told her it is rising. Amy whined about unemployment and Joy asked her if she knew what the black unemployment rate was under Bush and Amy admitted she did not, etc.
Great job! But it's sad that this is not the basic behavior expected of everyone.
PatSeg
(47,567 posts)You have to nip the misinformation immediately or it becomes implanted in people's minds. It is harder to correct later on.
glennward
(989 posts)wouldn't allow the spewing of misinformation. i bet anyone coming on her show will have studied the facts of the issues they want to raise. That should keep a lot stupid innuendo from entering the discussion. Joy did what a real journalist does. Too bad Wolf and Chuckie boy and Tweety don't know how to do it or just won't do it.
Joy rocks! hope she can last.
PatSeg
(47,567 posts)misinformation, they end up reinforcing it.
Tweety does challenge things here and there, though not nearly as often as a journalist should. Blitzer and Todd are pretty useless for the most part. It is like they have a checklist of questions to get through. A robot could do their job and probably do it better.
Joy Reid is smart as they come. I really hope she lasts as well. I quit watching MSNBC weekend mornings (didn't care for Melissa Harris-Perry much), but I may start watching Reid's show.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)She did not let this person just spew the talking points no matter the question. She interrupted the Trump spokesperson and asked her to answer the question, which of course she could not.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)spooky3
(34,467 posts)solara
(3,836 posts)I love how she follows up. You are right she is doing what every single journalist should do.
She would be a stunning debate mediator
Probably already too scary for the regressives
"You can't invent things"
Wow
Go Joy! She is fearless.
spooky3
(34,467 posts)Dare step onto her show. Sunlight and cockroaches and all that...
cannabis_flower
(3,765 posts)If only Fox will have them, most normal people will only hear our message.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)answers on her show.
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AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)spooky3
(34,467 posts)to do the correcting, or they don't know the facts themselves, or they aren't quick enough on their feet (or seat) to size up what's happening and confront it. I think she's doing it exactly right.
Bill Maher (non journalist) sometimes is good at this too, but he isn't always prepared with the facts (understandable, since his is more of a comedy/entertainment) show.
The rest of them need to get on board...
randr
(12,414 posts)Satch59
(1,353 posts)Follows up well, knows her facts and does not let her RW idiot guests get away with crap talking points. She should really have her own show in a daily prime time spot...like flip out "With All Due Respect" with her...
brush
(53,833 posts)Then need a real journalist host on that show.
Satch59
(1,353 posts)Bet Chuck would be afraid to let her sub in at some point... Viewers would sit up and say wow...
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Because strong women of color do not last long with their own shows on MSNBC (see Mellissa Harris-Perry, Karen Finney, Alex Wagner) - surprised Tamron Hall still has a show.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)She is doing what other so-called journalists SHOULD be doing.
Peregrine Took
(7,417 posts)Most reporters led them spew their garbage but not Joy.
A few weeks ago Matt Schlapp (I think that's his name) a grinning GOP pundit, looked like he wanted to strangle her as his typical ploy is to talk over and she talked over him. A thing of beauty!
He is especially detestable as he was part of the Brooks Brothers riot banging on the doors in Miami-Dade in 2000.
jcgoldie
(11,639 posts)She cuts through the bullshit and she's honest not falsely balanced.
homegirl
(1,433 posts)Amazing woman! Every journalist should follow her example.
Wounded Bear
(58,698 posts)was nice to see, and about time.
Joy may have a future.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,698 posts)I miss the good old days, and the good news reporting you could more or less trust.
calimary
(81,440 posts)It's about time we start seeing this! He wouldn't let some Trump excuse-making mouthpiece get away with some of his statements, too. It's been a long time in coming. I wish journalists had had the guts to do this during bush/cheney. They didn't. They gave those bastards a free pass, a free ride, and as they say in the Monopoly game, "Free Parking", and a free trip past "Go" PLUS a free 200 dollars. NEVER questioned. Those who tried were fired, demoted, shut out. So they all learned their lesson, alright. DISGUSTING. COWARDS ALL.
I guess we ought to be grateful this is now happening, in real time. Rather than long after the fact, like the New York Times finally did, printing a somewhat limited acknowledgement that they dropped the ball, and allowed themselves to be used. No, not used. PLAYED. LIKE FUCKING VIOLINS. They were manipulated up one side of the room and down the other, and NEVER questioned, NEVER tried to drill down, NEVER. NOT ONCE. Until way after the fact. When it does no good at all. And it could have done PLENTY of good if they'd done it in real time.
spooky3
(34,467 posts)HurricaneWarning
(220 posts)The guy was amazing. It's like there is a cosmic shift in the universe and journalist are asking tough questions and actually following up.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)same talking points hour-after-hour-after-hour.
I like Joy 1000 times better than, say, Mika, and 100 times better than current Rachel, and 10 times better than Chris - but their talking points overlap 95%. It is tiresome.
When Ed and Rev. Al were bigger voices at the network, at least there was some variety in the viewpoints.
I wish Joy would throw away the talking points and tap her inner Keith or her inner vintage Rachel.
LakeArenal
(28,837 posts)she'll get fired. I am sure she walks a fine line at MSNBC. But I am on board with the What happened to Rachel crowd.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I've noticed he's now Anchor 1 and she's Anchor 2 for Big Things like elections and conventions.
EV_Ares
(6,587 posts)to be Chuck Todd who lets them say whatever they want, not calling them on their comments like Joy Reid did there. ABC Jon Karl or whoever does the same. Stephanopoulos is maybe the best but he lacks doing that many times as well.
What good are these shows if they don't hold their guests responsible for what they say?
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Rachel used to approach bloviating liars. Sadly, MSNBC has reduced her to an "amen to that" pundit.
LostinRed
(840 posts)I have seen her name several times. Also, do you have a link would love to watch it sounds like a great smack down.
spooky3
(34,467 posts)sheshe2
(83,860 posts)I don't watch much TV so it is good to know I can catch her here.
spooky3
(34,467 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Also when they make statements they cannot back up with facts.
More journalists should know the facts about the state of the nation when O took office vs. now.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/obamas-numbers-january-2016-update/
asjr
(10,479 posts)Donald find these women? There are enough Trumpers and Trumpetts spilling liquid crap from their mouths about him. Does he promise them money when he wins the presidency? Did any of them graduate from Kindergarten? Or did all of them break out of a cocoon listening to him?
Cha
(297,528 posts)spooky3
(34,467 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)spooky3
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c588415
(285 posts)commentator.
mia
(8,361 posts)Glad to hear news about Joy-Ann Reid!
Upthevibe
(8,068 posts)Joy totally called her on it - like the GDP. And when the lady starting talking about the economy and jobs, Joy jumped right in and said the unemployment rate is below 5%. Why can't they all do this!?!?!? I think I'll email Chuck Todd since he's supposedly the news director(I may be wrong about this) to express how impressed I am with Joy. I'll also why all of the so-called journalist aren't doing this! Can you guys imagine where we'd be if they did!!!
doc03
(35,363 posts)point of view, if they hear otherwise they block it out. Today instead of journalists they have talking heads that tell you what to think. I know people that won't
even watch a movie that an actor makes because they don't agree with them politically.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)will find themselves in a box that keeps getting smaller. They used to live out in the country and not get the paper. As our cities become more diverse and interesting, those folks will be going back to the sticks again.
jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)Joy took those comments and decimated them.
And unlike Billo, she really didn't cut her mic. The lying guest was back in another segment. I'm sure the guest will make the decision to not be back because she can't lie at will.
She'll go to CNN. Lol.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)PrideofJefferson
(54 posts)Ms. Reid would be a great host for that show. I haven't watched in a long time but her interview style would serve that show well. She can make an interviewee very comfortable so they open up but if they try to pull some BS she will stick it to them. She and Tamron Hall are my two favorites at the moment. Both great interviewers.