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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:36 PM Jul 2016

This is interesting. I wonder why.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-plans/story?id=41002081

"... Sanders confirmed that he had no intention using his email list to fundraise for Clinton ..."


Well, at least he bothered to endorsed her. I guess that's something. But, I kinda figured that would be the extent of his contribution. Maybe he'll campaign for/with her. Who knows?

#StrongerTogether



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This is interesting. I wonder why. (Original Post) NurseJackie Jul 2016 OP
It has never been about fund raising for down ticket candidates. Not surprised Thinkingabout Jul 2016 #1
Hey he's got a business to run rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #2
keep shooting them cross our bow... its real good for unity. AND DONT EVEN talk about zonkers Jul 2016 #19
Lol rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #20
.. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Jul 2016 #31
I am simply going to dismiss Sanders on this. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #3
Sanders got major funding from the DSCC lapucelle Jul 2016 #27
You guys are still playing let's put Bernie down? iwillalwayswonderwhy Jul 2016 #4
He'll always be a punching bag for some. NWCorona Jul 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #10
So holding one's feet to the fire is a "put down" ?? ("SMH" yourself.) NurseJackie Jul 2016 #15
Yup they still are. And they will keep needling him. Sheesh. Shame on THEM after Bernie's zonkers Jul 2016 #18
who cares - we can find out how to get some $$$ to Hillary rurallib Jul 2016 #5
I know why. athena Jul 2016 #6
Lol.. it might look a lot like..(ahem) misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #8
LOL. athena Jul 2016 #12
This isn't new. Bernie has been clear from jump that his email list will never NWCorona Jul 2016 #9
That would be a bit much to ask, probably. On the other hand ... NurseJackie Jul 2016 #14
I actually don't think Hillary is hurting for money at all. I think most here would agree on that. NWCorona Jul 2016 #16
As I said ... "my fault". NurseJackie Jul 2016 #21
Wait.. wait.. I..I thought..... pangaia Jul 2016 #11
My fault entirely. My expectations were too high. For some reason ... NurseJackie Jul 2016 #13
I will stick up for Bernie: what do you want? A pound of flesh. Should he kiss the ring? Jeez, zonkers Jul 2016 #17
It's Hillary's slogan. I didn't make it up ... NurseJackie Jul 2016 #22
To support and campaign for Hillary as enthusiastically, tirelessly Mellomugwump Jul 2016 #32
That seems reasonable and doable. I hope it comes true. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #37
In the interests of unity... GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #23
You're correct ... It won't make all that much difference. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #25
Sanders has shown himself to be a shrewd politician. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #24
Likely irrelevant information relayerbob Jul 2016 #28
Irrelevant? Seriously? athena Jul 2016 #29
I think that he won't run again. ehrnst Jul 2016 #30
I think he will be surprised to see how quickly his "movement" fades unitedwethrive Jul 2016 #33
Agreed rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #34
I hadn't considered that. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #35
Politicians are typically very territorial about their email lists. Mr Maru Jul 2016 #36
Agreed! n/t DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #38
Who? LexVegas Aug 2016 #39
THIS post is why I think there are Trump trolls Red Knight Aug 2016 #40
 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
19. keep shooting them cross our bow... its real good for unity. AND DONT EVEN talk about
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jul 2016

who is/was the "business" candidate. (paid speeches,superpacs). And keep denigrating character of Bernie. It's a long time till November and it is the surest way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

on edit.. you guys are total -- oops, new rules, can't say it.




















 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
20. Lol
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:57 PM - Edit history (1)

Which side are you on?

Never mind, don't answer. But go on believing.

Response to zonkers (Reply #19)

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
3. I am simply going to dismiss Sanders on this.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jul 2016

He'll probably run for office one more time and that will be that.

His list may end up being a legacy for his son. Levi, to use to build a political career. Who knows.

There are far more important things to worry about than this, though.

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
27. Sanders got major funding from the DSCC
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:33 PM
Jul 2016

the last time he ran for Senate. He may be reluctant to share his list because he doesn't want to rely on DSCC money when he runs for reelection.

Response to iwillalwayswonderwhy (Reply #4)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. So holding one's feet to the fire is a "put down" ?? ("SMH" yourself.)
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jul 2016

I just find it odd that his enthusiasm seems to have suddenly cooled at a rate that is inconsistent with all that we had previously been led to believe.

But that's okay. Either something has changed, or I totally misread his intentions and sincerity. Probably the latter, I'm not very good at reading people. My expectations were out of line and it's my fault for being overly optimistic.

The Democratic Party and Hillary's campaign will be fine ... no biggie ... it's just my disappointment talking.

#StrongerTogether and all that.

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
18. Yup they still are. And they will keep needling him. Sheesh. Shame on THEM after Bernie's
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jul 2016

generous endorsement. New rules prohibit me from unloading but man, I already have buyers romorse with some of the smack some folks dish out around here.

athena

(4,187 posts)
6. I know why.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jul 2016

And I suspect you do, too. Site rules prevent me from saying any more than that.

The good news is that Hillary is strong and has a ton of support. She's got this.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
9. This isn't new. Bernie has been clear from jump that his email list will never
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jul 2016

be given to the Clinton campaign.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. That would be a bit much to ask, probably. On the other hand ...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:08 PM
Jul 2016

... using it himself to fund-raise on Hillary's behalf seems reasonable.

But, it is what it is. It's my fault and I'm to blame for expecting too much and getting my hopes too high.

I'll know better next time.

But for now, we'll move forward on our own.

#StrongerTogether

#TogetherForever (I know, it's a Rick Astley song... but the hashtag seems appropriate anyway.)

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
16. I actually don't think Hillary is hurting for money at all. I think most here would agree on that.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jul 2016

Right?
Bernie stayed true to his word. Would it be nice for team Hillary to have help on fundraising? Sure.

"But, it is what it is. It's my fault and I'm to blame for expecting too much and getting my hopes too high.

I'll know better next time."

Come on now. We both know what's up with that comment.

As always... It's been nice chatting

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
11. Wait.. wait.. I..I thought.....
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jul 2016

I mean..., just tue, and Wed,,,,,,,,,,, I mean, gosh, Bernie was a hero!

Ooppssie... I guess he said something wrong.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. My fault entirely. My expectations were too high. For some reason ...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jul 2016

... I thought he was going to do more. Clearly, I was wrong.

Oh well. Now we know.

That's life. That's politics.

Onward and upward.

#StrongerTogether

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
17. I will stick up for Bernie: what do you want? A pound of flesh. Should he kiss the ring? Jeez,
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jul 2016

your #strongertogether hashtag is laughable. Keep it up and people will go green.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. It's Hillary's slogan. I didn't make it up ...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jul 2016

... but I like it.

Keep it up and people will go green.

Because mature voters make their voting decisions based on comments from anonymous users on discussion web sites, eh?

Mellomugwump

(93 posts)
32. To support and campaign for Hillary as enthusiastically, tirelessly
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jul 2016

And as genuinely as she did for Obama when she lost to ensure that we didn't have to endure McCain/Palin for 4 or more years. That is all.

GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts)
23. In the interests of unity...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jul 2016

I just donated $27 to Hillary. I meant it to send a reminder that Bernie supporters are important to the campaign, but I'm with her. And yes, I've been for Hillary, but I think we need to be much more together. There are still far too many of us, both Hillary and Bernie supporters, who are taking deep offense at slights that are either small or incorrectly inferred.

So Bernie didn't provide his email list? Well, it's his list to provide or not provide! And we all know that Hillary's going to have the most intensive campaign organization we've seen. So I don't look at Bernie's list as something that could tip the scales one way or another, and I am therefore just fine with his decision.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. You're correct ... It won't make all that much difference.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jul 2016

But it's interesting to see what his limits are, where he draws the line, and his commitment level. Less than I expected, but that's on me.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. Sanders has shown himself to be a shrewd politician.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jul 2016

This is his email list. If he wishes to use it to solicit funds for Clintons election that is his choice. If he gives it to her or sells it to her it is going to piss a lot of people of. In this cycle I can understand this.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
28. Likely irrelevant information
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jul 2016

Since anybody on his list that wants to move to HRC probably already has, and those that haven't won't want to anyway.

athena

(4,187 posts)
29. Irrelevant? Seriously?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jul 2016

There are probably many people on that list who only got interested in politics because of Bernie's candidacy and will not vote in the general election. Anyone who has volunteered on a campaign knows how valuable these lists are.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
33. I think he will be surprised to see how quickly his "movement" fades
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jul 2016

Things keep changing, and people move on. His best bet to continue his popular streak is to go all in with Hillary. It's the old adage of tying yourself to a winner.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
34. Agreed
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jul 2016

Despite his protestations to the contrary it was largely personality-driven.

There is no far left movement in this county because the far left is not interested in coalition building or compromise.

Our way or the highway. We saw it in Phladelphia. And most of us rolled our eyes.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. I hadn't considered that.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jul 2016

Perhaps the trade-off or possible risks don't matter. It's hard to know for sure what he's thinking. Despite my surprise and disappointment, I can't know for sure ... only time will tell if he's made a smart decision or whether it was a myopic one.

Mr Maru

(216 posts)
36. Politicians are typically very territorial about their email lists.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:44 PM
Jul 2016

Standard politician fare.

He may still need some more time, he may just need to keep some things for himself.

He worked pretty hard to develop that list. If he needs to keep something, meh?

I think we'll be fine, and enough of his donors will pitch in, either way.

Red Knight

(704 posts)
40. THIS post is why I think there are Trump trolls
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:33 AM
Aug 2016

It seems so obvious. There is no other reason for this post than to sew division. Primary is over. All this accomplishes is division.

And who is best served by that?

But keep going. By all means.

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