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Hillary +5 in newest Poll (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 OP
I'm predicting 10 pts calguy Jul 2016 #1
Love it! MoonRiver Jul 2016 #2
Give it time Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 #3
Uh, this poll says she is up 5 points, MoonRiver Jul 2016 #7
I meant in the average of polls Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 #9
Ok understand MoonRiver Jul 2016 #10
Not likely Charles Bukowski Jul 2016 #6
Actually MSM ingored Sanders until the middle of the race. padfun Jul 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author RiverNoord Jul 2016 #23
I'm coming at this from the base line of being a Clinton supporter, but calimary Jul 2016 #31
Barely but they won't fixate on it treestar Jul 2016 #24
This is going to be a Goldwater situation. The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #4
Good news - long may it continue. auntpurl Jul 2016 #5
Ok J.R.R. piechartking Jul 2016 #11
And this is with their new wording, where they took out "neither" as an option nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #8
You set your sites too low ffr Jul 2016 #12
Keep it coming. I need the stress reduction! Silent3 Jul 2016 #13
Fully agree. I'm very worried. Mira Jul 2016 #30
The ground game Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 #14
Thank goodness RexCasual Jul 2016 #15
Welcome to DU, RexCasual! calimary Jul 2016 #32
"Other/Wouldn't Vote/Refused" is beating Trump now? John Poet Jul 2016 #16
it's an internet panel so... Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #21
I think the media, half purposefully, did not "read" polling right Cosmocat Jul 2016 #17
So in other words, you're thinking this is Donald going down in polls as a direct result auntpurl Jul 2016 #19
I haven't seen that furry dog post these yet. MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #18
Woo hoooo! Of course the MSM still reporting Hillary "trailing" tRump in the polls. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #22
And after each debate treestar Jul 2016 #25
She will probably never get much above +5... StraightRazor Jul 2016 #26
? triron Jul 2016 #27
Where? Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 #29
A competent policy wonk vs. a fascist circus clown killbotfactory Jul 2016 #28

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
3. Give it time
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jul 2016

A lot of the polls won't come out for a few more days.

She had a 5 point lead a few weeks ago, she'll get that back, but the difference will be that more people will have made up their mind permanently.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
9. I meant in the average of polls
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jul 2016

I want to see every poll have her up by at least a few points again.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
6. Not likely
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jul 2016

Right-leaning Rasmussen actually had Clinton in the lead, and I didn't hear a peep about it.

It's the MSM's best interest to sell this race as a nail-biter, similar to Clinton vs Sanders (which wasn't a nail-biter at all).

padfun

(1,787 posts)
20. Actually MSM ingored Sanders until the middle of the race.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:19 PM
Jul 2016

I even remember a point where they refused to mention his name on air.
It was only when Bernie started winning some states that they started the horse race meme.

Response to Charles Bukowski (Reply #6)

calimary

(81,451 posts)
31. I'm coming at this from the base line of being a Clinton supporter, but
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 06:05 PM
Jul 2016

it confuses me when I see this - that there's a sense of the Sanders campaign being almost ignored by the mainstream media. Seriously? I find that astounding. To me it seemed rather glaringly the opposite.

I mostly watch MSNBC. And some CNN. NEVER Pox Noise, of course. For some reason, my husband and I stopped watching the "Big 3" networks a long time ago. Today neither of us has any clue what shows are on prime time on any night on any network. We're always on alternative channels. But on MSNBC, please forgive me saying this but I felt it was Hillary getting SEVERELY short shrift. Week after week, I felt like people like Chris Hayes and others on MSNBC were almost literally trying to jam Bernie Sanders down my throat.

I actually grew not to like Chris Hayes in particular, because of that. Show after show, I'd sit there and grouse to my husband - "shit, does he EVER cover Hillary? Oh great. Yet ANOTHER interview coming up with Bernie Sanders. Is this a weekly feature now? How long has it been since he had Hillary on?" Almost everything Chris Hayes said had some sort of Bernie angle to it, or how this compared to Bernie, or what Bernie was doing about such-and-such, or what Bernie said about this or that, or somehow related back to Bernie. Even a quickie network promo that briefly featured him (maybe for a mere three seconds) showed him as part of a panel where, sure enough, he was bringing up Bernie Sanders. His interview with Ilyse Hogue of NARAL was stunning! He pushed and pushed and pushed, to the point where I felt he had to have made some bet, off-screen, that he could flip her to Bernie right there live on the air. But as the interview dragged on, and she held firm, his facial expression actually turned visibly darker and darker, and more and more concerned, she wouldn't budge, and he finally gave up. Frankly, sometimes I couldn't help but suspect that what Chris Hayes was really doing on his show was auditioning to become White House Press Secretary in a Bernie Sanders administration. Hey, it's happened before. Ron Nessen certainly made the jump from network news to White House Press Secretary - for Gerald Ford. Again, my own personal bias here as a Hillary supporter. SO much more attention seems to have been paid to Bernie Sanders that sometimes I just couldn't even watch anything anymore, out of sheer frustration.

I still don't understand how anyone could think Bernie got short shrift in the media. Quite the contrary. To me it felt strongly as though some anchors and reporters were quite literally obsessed with him.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
12. You set your sites too low
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jul 2016

I'm thinking more along the lines of +55% by the way we've just destroyed the whole republican belief system, from their leaders to their followers.

Silent3

(15,263 posts)
13. Keep it coming. I need the stress reduction!
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jul 2016

While I'm feeling fairly good about Clinton winning in November, it's still a major source of anxiety for me that the election could possibly be this close. Trump's odds of winning in an even slightly sane world should be nearly zero.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
14. The ground game
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jul 2016

I want to see us up by at least 5 because I think the superior ground game we have is worth another 3-5 points at the voting booths.

A win more than 7 points is not only a mandate, it also means really good things down ticket.

calimary

(81,451 posts)
32. Welcome to DU, RexCasual!
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jul 2016

I know how you feel. I was so relieved that the Democratic convention came second. We got the last word, and we'll be the main takeaway from this two-week period. People tend to remember best what they heard last.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
16. "Other/Wouldn't Vote/Refused" is beating Trump now?
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jul 2016

by 2.x percent..... LOL!

Still, that's an awful lot of people out to sea.

Their trendline shows much more of a steady decline by Trump than a Clinton gain; Clinton is more or less at the same level as a week ago, maybe a point higher.

Cosmocat

(14,572 posts)
17. I think the media, half purposefully, did not "read" polling right
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jul 2016

they attributed polls that came out immediately after the RNC to be a "bounce" but in reality that most likely was the result of the shitfest over Hillaries e-mails.

What this is showing is the period that would be where a "bounce" would be the Donald loses support.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
19. So in other words, you're thinking this is Donald going down in polls as a direct result
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jul 2016

of the RNC?

That is actually very possible. That thing was a nightmare.

 

StraightRazor

(260 posts)
26. She will probably never get much above +5...
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jul 2016

she should be solidly +25 right now against the Abomination - almost any other Democrat would be. The Abomination should never poll above the 35% or so that are his solidly 'completely lost to reason and reality' base.

I think it's going to be way closer than it needs to be through the Fall, but she'll win by a razor-thin margin.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
28. A competent policy wonk vs. a fascist circus clown
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jul 2016

I don't care what you think about Hillary, this is a no-brainer.

No progressive cause any of us cares about will be advanced under a Trump presidency. None. Flat out.

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