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RandySF

(59,248 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:15 PM Jul 2016

Why is Andrea Mitchell making a big deal out a roll call vote?

I didn't hear any drama prior to the RNC roll call, and the only time candidate are nominated by acclimation is when they are the incumbent. The exception was 2008 because of the Michigan/Florida mess the led to a near draw in delegates to begin win. The states will be called. The votes will be declared, and Hillary will be nominated. WTF is the drama in that?

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Why is Andrea Mitchell making a big deal out a roll call vote? (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2016 OP
Because if the MSM doesn't have drama, they would actually have to do real reporting Siwsan Jul 2016 #1
Nailed it treestar Jul 2016 #24
I think because the BoBs are going to try and stage a coup Florencenj2point0 Jul 2016 #2
there was a little drama to the roll call in 2008 geek tragedy Jul 2016 #3
Bernie can't do that... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #6
they can change the order however they want geek tragedy Jul 2016 #13
I believe that's how Hillary did it in 2008 LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #27
+1. Was an excellent move by Bernie, promising his delegates that they will be heard. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #7
I fell in love with her that day. grossproffit Jul 2016 #20
Me too.. even though I was huge Obama supporter. DCBob Jul 2016 #34
I think she's hoping that the roll call vote will provide an opportunity for chaos. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #4
Andrea Mitchell doesn't even attempt to hide her evilness. She's really nasty, imo. grossproffit Jul 2016 #22
I think she is in the early stages of demetia Sheepshank Jul 2016 #35
Because a lot of Sanders delegates were losing their shit on Twitter because they don't understand Brickbat Jul 2016 #5
You summed it up well - "They don't understand the process". tonyt53 Jul 2016 #9
I'm all for getting new people in the door -- as long as they commit to learning the ropes. Brickbat Jul 2016 #15
I saw a young girl who looked barely out of high school RandySF Jul 2016 #11
Or life in general, given what appear to be her tender years. 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #30
I am very glad there is going to be a roll call vote.. chillfactor Jul 2016 #8
I'm fine with roll calls for everything. RandySF Jul 2016 #14
I agree. Otherwise, they will forever feel cheated. Some of them might anyway, but Arkansas Granny Jul 2016 #32
Because she's become a shit-stirring hack in her old age? Hekate Jul 2016 #10
^^^Thread winner right there!^^^^ workinclasszero Jul 2016 #40
Andrea Mitchell is a vile Repuke partisan. Nuff said. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #12
Thats why I am staying with C-span katmondoo Jul 2016 #16
Good plan. I've got it on too. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #18
I used to love watching the roll call, back in the day when conventions actually mattered Glorfindel Jul 2016 #17
I do wish they would skip it. auntpurl Jul 2016 #19
Because Democrats aren't a Banana Republic mentality... heresAthingdotcom Jul 2016 #21
Roll call will be the closure Bernie delegates need... Satch59 Jul 2016 #23
Donna is a very wise woman and knows what she's talking about. Arkansas Granny Jul 2016 #33
There was because of the Never Trump tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #25
Hours and hours of time to fill....I'm watching her now and she's vamping in every way Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #26
Ratings? Because she is Andrea Mitchell and that's how she rolls? wildeyed Jul 2016 #28
It Will Be Best for All Voters to be Heard. Expecting Rain Jul 2016 #29
Full roll call votes aren't the norm. procon Jul 2016 #31
I know some think this will add closure andhelp with the healing Sheepshank Jul 2016 #36
Probably so, short of getting everything they wanted, nothing will satisfy the true believers. nt procon Jul 2016 #37
After watching the roll call do you still feel that way? democrattotheend Jul 2016 #39
I agree that Bernie was mangnanimous and showed great character Sheepshank Jul 2016 #41
Come to C-SPAN AwakeAtLast Jul 2016 #38
It's their job to drum up drama to keep eyes glued The Second Stone Jul 2016 #42

Siwsan

(26,292 posts)
1. Because if the MSM doesn't have drama, they would actually have to do real reporting
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jul 2016

And apparently real reporting doesn't bring in ratings.

Florencenj2point0

(435 posts)
2. I think because the BoBs are going to try and stage a coup
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jul 2016

they are going to try and get the super delegates to switch to bernie. It will only be a handful of them, but enough to cause drama for a few minutes.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. there was a little drama to the roll call in 2008
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jul 2016

there was worry about it being divisive, but Clinton wanted everyone who voted for her to be represented at the roll call--especially those who had dreamed of a woman president, etc.

It was the right move, and I think the roll call will be the right move today. Just hope the boo-bird punks from yesterday leave the chairs on the floor.

Wounded Bear

(58,717 posts)
6. Bernie can't do that...
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jul 2016

because they do it alphabetically. Vermont will be called way late in the process.

This is not big deal. It allows the Bernie supporters to vote for their candidate and assuage their consciences. Then we move forward and get Hillary elected.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. they can change the order however they want
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jul 2016

states will just "pass" and let other states go before them.

This is usually done so that a swing state's votes will put the nominee over the top.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
27. I believe that's how Hillary did it in 2008
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jul 2016

They allowed NY to jump ahead of others so that she could proclaim Obama the nominee.

emulatorloo

(44,186 posts)
7. +1. Was an excellent move by Bernie, promising his delegates that they will be heard.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jul 2016

For one thing diffuses the tape on my mouth stunt.

He's walking a tightrope here and I applaud him.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
4. I think she's hoping that the roll call vote will provide an opportunity for chaos.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jul 2016

The networks like chaos. A lot of the network employees were actually disappointed (and obviously disappointed) that things went so well last night. Did you see them out there trying to find people who were upset? I saw Andrea interviewing Chuck Schumer and Chuck was just ecstatic about how well things had gone last night. At the end of the interview, Andrea looked so deflated. She just couldn't rattle old Schumer.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
35. I think she is in the early stages of demetia
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jul 2016

she is nasty, sees things from a very negative space, and last night during several of her interviews was foggy, seemed to loose her spot in the questioning, seemed frustrated over any and all distractions/noises/volume.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
5. Because a lot of Sanders delegates were losing their shit on Twitter because they don't understand
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jul 2016

the process and they thought the roll call had been cancelled entirely because states were caucusing to get a final count in the morning.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
15. I'm all for getting new people in the door -- as long as they commit to learning the ropes.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jul 2016

I haven't seen a lot of that this time around.

RandySF

(59,248 posts)
11. I saw a young girl who looked barely out of high school
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jul 2016

saying she would not vote for Hillary because she "hasn't changed". WTF does she know about Hillary's life?

3catwoman3

(24,051 posts)
30. Or life in general, given what appear to be her tender years.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jul 2016

In another thread, I read that she is running for office, in Vermont, IIRC.

chillfactor

(7,584 posts)
8. I am very glad there is going to be a roll call vote..
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jul 2016

let Bernie supporters have their say and then let's move on.

Arkansas Granny

(31,532 posts)
32. I agree. Otherwise, they will forever feel cheated. Some of them might anyway, but
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jul 2016

you can't please everyone.

Glorfindel

(9,736 posts)
17. I used to love watching the roll call, back in the day when conventions actually mattered
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jul 2016

It would be like, "The great state of Georgia, home of blah, blah, blah, blah, etc., yields to the state of Massachusetts for the purpose of placing a name in nomination for the office of President of the United States." It could really get exciting, what with cheers and demonstrations taking place when a candidate's name was mentioned. 1956: Adlai Stevenson and Estes Kefauver....such exotic names.
1960: John F. Kennedy! 1964: Fannie Lou Hamer and the Mississippi Freedom Democrats. I wouldn't want a return to the smoke-filled rooms of yesteryear, but the primary system really took a lot of fun out of the conventions.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
19. I do wish they would skip it.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jul 2016

If yesterday was any indication, it's going to be another embarrassing shit show.

heresAthingdotcom

(160 posts)
21. Because Democrats aren't a Banana Republic mentality...
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jul 2016

who imprison the political opposition instead of winning at the ballot box...

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
23. Roll call will be the closure Bernie delegates need...
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:51 PM
Jul 2016

They'll have their say, maybe protest a bit and then move on or maybe some will just leave. Joy Reid said last night that Donna Brazille is to be thanked for seeing the big picture...she said the steam needed to be let out and that by night's end, the room would be more unified. She was right...

Smart...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
26. Hours and hours of time to fill....I'm watching her now and she's vamping in every way
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jul 2016

known to modern broadcasting. Stretch it out, Andrea, it's a long time till the gavel falls.....

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
29. It Will Be Best for All Voters to be Heard.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jul 2016

It is not only democratic, but it will be cathartic.

The convention is doing well in promoting healing. Kudos to Bernie Sanders for being a mensch.

Time to stop fighting the primaries people. With unity we win.

Roll-call. Then acclimation.



procon

(15,805 posts)
31. Full roll call votes aren't the norm.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jul 2016

This was another milksop to Sanders supporters who demanded the opportunity to vote for him, which means they will get his name in the nomination. Sanders has about 1,900 delegates, and they are hoping for a miraculous coup. But there are about 6,000 delegates and alternates at the convention, and Clinton needs 2,383 to formally receive the party's nomination, so lots of hurt feelings to come.


 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
36. I know some think this will add closure andhelp with the healing
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jul 2016

...unfortunately my perception of the perpetually outrage, shitting in their own pants BoB'ers, one more loss will promote further outrage as they work to pour salt into their own wounds.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
39. After watching the roll call do you still feel that way?
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jul 2016

Or are you satisfied now?

I thought it went really well. Lots of cheers for both candidates, some moving moments like when Bernie's brother cast a vote for him and when the old woman from Arizona cast a vote for Hillary, and Bernie was magnanimous at the end.

It was cathartic for me and hopefully for many other Bernie supporters.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
41. I agree that Bernie was mangnanimous and showed great character
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jul 2016

I also agree that many of his supporters were there wih him. Some were just as I had imagined. Angry, not so magnanimous, pushing placards into the faces of others to get them in front of the camera. I was pleasantly surprised that many more showed restraint.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
42. It's their job to drum up drama to keep eyes glued
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jul 2016

I've been a delegate, and it's kind of fun to go through the states. But there isn't a non-drama reason not to take a written vote of each delegation and have accountants add them up. It would take far less time.

The great state of Pennsytucky, the golden archway to the heartland and porn production capital of the rust belt casts its 269 votes for the next President of the United States, William Jennings Bryan! The crowd roars.

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