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FDR had to be pushed to the left.
Hillary can be pushed to the left.
Sanders and his supporters have started the process. The goal now is to hold her feet to the fire.
Thank you Bernie.
Hillary's Presidency is what we make it to be.
Hillary 2016.
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http://www.motherjones.com/media/2003/11/tony-kushner-radical-pragmatist
Bear in mind that this interview took place in 2004.
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TK: . . .Listen, here's the thing about politics: It's not an expression of your moral purity and your ethics and your probity and your fond dreams of some utopian future. Progressive people constantly fail to get this. . .
(snip)
MJ: You're saying progressives are undone by their own idealism?
TK: The system isn't about ideals. The country doesn't elect great leaders. It elects fucked-up people who for reasons of ego want to run the world. Then the citizenry makes them become great. FDR was a plutocrat. In a certain sense he wasn't so different from George W. Bush, and he could have easily been Herbert Hoover, Part II. But he was a smart man, and the working class of America told him that he had to be the person who saved this country. It happened with Lyndon Johnson, too, and it could have happened with Bill Clinton, but we were so relieved after 12 years of Reagan and Bush that we sat back and carped.
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In a nutshell, Hillary Clinton can become a great POTUS, but only if We The People DEMAND that she be a great POTUS.
Bear in mind that this interview took place in 2004.
(snip)
TK: . . .Listen, here's the thing about politics: It's not an expression of your moral purity and your ethics and your probity and your fond dreams of some utopian future. Progressive people constantly fail to get this. . .
(snip)
MJ: You're saying progressives are undone by their own idealism?
TK: The system isn't about ideals. The country doesn't elect great leaders. It elects fucked-up people who for reasons of ego want to run the world. Then the citizenry makes them become great. FDR was a plutocrat. In a certain sense he wasn't so different from George W. Bush, and he could have easily been Herbert Hoover, Part II. But he was a smart man, and the working class of America told him that he had to be the person who saved this country. It happened with Lyndon Johnson, too, and it could have happened with Bill Clinton, but we were so relieved after 12 years of Reagan and Bush that we sat back and carped.
(snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In a nutshell, Hillary Clinton can become a great POTUS, but only if We The People DEMAND that she be a great POTUS.
