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If we lose this,you can bet your ass that I'm blaming the BoBs. (Original Post) sufrommich Jul 2016 OP
I think that Clinton is responsible for her campaign. David__77 Jul 2016 #1
Oh please. skylucy Jul 2016 #6
Do you disagree? David__77 Jul 2016 #12
Ridiculous. "She asked for it" isn't going to make everything OK. sufrommich Jul 2016 #10
I don't think she asked for it. David__77 Jul 2016 #31
No. BoBs like Sarandon are making excuses for Trump and downplaying his lunacy Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2016 #29
Those who support Trump are Trump supporters. David__77 Jul 2016 #32
It is not Clinton fans doing the nasty disrupting in case you have not noticed. riversedge Jul 2016 #35
I'm don't disagree with your statement. David__77 Jul 2016 #38
She's NOT responsible for the actions of Sanders provocateurs, yeah? nt procon Jul 2016 #40
I think she's responsible for her campaign. David__77 Jul 2016 #41
+1,000 Vattel Jul 2016 #42
You actually expect to lose? TheCowsCameHome Jul 2016 #2
Blame Santa if you like. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #3
That red faced, morbidly obese, slave driver of short folks? ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2016 #19
Sure, blame whomever you want. elleng Jul 2016 #4
This isn't about a big divide in American politics. This is about a tiny lunatic fringe that Squinch Jul 2016 #15
I don't think so. elleng Jul 2016 #21
That's nice. Squinch Jul 2016 #22
Sure if the "establishment" means rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #34
Yep. Squinch Jul 2016 #5
Sometimes you have to carry your own luggage. panader0 Jul 2016 #7
Whatever helps you sleep at night... Contrary1 Jul 2016 #8
Winning is our responsibility so get out and do it The Second Stone Jul 2016 #9
I just can't believe that they are sabotaging the Dem convention this way. Chemisse Jul 2016 #11
But they'll get their revenge,the cost will be horrific but sufrommich Jul 2016 #14
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #13
I will blame James Comey. What he did was immoral and dishonest. (eom) StevieM Jul 2016 #16
Relax! She's got this! She's vetted, experienced and will smash Trump Arazi Jul 2016 #17
That's a bit like blaming Pepsi for the New Coke failure in 1986 Bucky Jul 2016 #18
We're not going to lose.. these ********** do not have that power. Hillary won Cha Jul 2016 #20
BOB? Bring our own booze? ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2016 #23
That will fix it! TheKentuckian Jul 2016 #24
I suppose a lot of people reflection Jul 2016 #25
we aren't going to lose anything and by the end of the Convention or before we will be unified still_one Jul 2016 #26
Laying the groundwork, I see. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #27
NO!!!! UMTerp01 Jul 2016 #28
They have been told many times Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #30
Oh offs. Are they children? Jesus,this is sickening to watch.nt sufrommich Jul 2016 #33
Yep, it is Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #37
YEAH ! YOU TELL 'EM ! pangaia Jul 2016 #36
Darn right. baldguy Jul 2016 #39

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
10. Ridiculous. "She asked for it" isn't going to make everything OK.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jul 2016

You people have lost your fucking minds. Get over your need for revenge before this country is destroyed.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
29. No. BoBs like Sarandon are making excuses for Trump and downplaying his lunacy
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jul 2016

yet attacking Clinton at every turn.

They are Trump supporters, pure and simple and are not going to shrug off the blame.

David__77

(23,423 posts)
32. Those who support Trump are Trump supporters.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jul 2016

Individuals are responsible for their actions and their votes or non-votes. Candidates are responsible for their campaigns.

David__77

(23,423 posts)
38. I'm don't disagree with your statement.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jul 2016

I think candidates are responsible for their campaigns and individuals are responsible for their actions.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
3. Blame Santa if you like.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jul 2016

Or Putin,

Or Sanders,

Or Michael Jackson.

Sometimes blaming others is comforting.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
19. That red faced, morbidly obese, slave driver of short folks?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jul 2016

That animal abusing, lazy, socialist who arbitrarily treats independent thinking children with scorn?

Hell, he only works one day a year. Probably seeks welfare and unemployment comp, too. And I am sure his vehicle is neither licensed, nor insured.

elleng

(131,006 posts)
4. Sure, blame whomever you want.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jul 2016

What about this?

'Does Hillary Get It?

'Does Hillary Clinton understand that the biggest divide in American politics is no longer between the right and the left, but between the anti-establishment and the establishment?

I worry she doesn’t – at least not yet.'>>>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016164131

Squinch

(50,957 posts)
15. This isn't about a big divide in American politics. This is about a tiny lunatic fringe that
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:16 PM
Jul 2016

is trolling for Trump.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
34. Sure if the "establishment" means
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jul 2016

"millions more voters and a majority of low income and minority voters."

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
9. Winning is our responsibility so get out and do it
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jul 2016

Stop looking for people to blame and register democratic voters and get them out to vote. Donate to swing state efforts. We do not have energy to waste on negative thinking. The country must defeat the fascist and elect the Democrat.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
11. I just can't believe that they are sabotaging the Dem convention this way.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jul 2016

The stakes are so very high. And just a small thing could sway the polls downward for us.

If we lose to Trump/Putin, and this convention is the point of the downturn, all that happens will be on their shoulders.

Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
17. Relax! She's got this! She's vetted, experienced and will smash Trump
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:16 PM
Jul 2016

Remember?

This is her campaign - she and her supporters know exactly what they're doing!

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
18. That's a bit like blaming Pepsi for the New Coke failure in 1986
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jul 2016

If you can't win over a voter's vote in a democracy, I don't think you can put all the blame on the people not being smart enough for you.

This race will be won or lost by turn-out. That's where your energy belongs.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
20. We're not going to lose.. these ********** do not have that power. Hillary won
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jul 2016

and her Supporters will carry her to victory.

Hillary won because she is brilliant.. President Obama has complete confidence in her, too, and so do millions of other people.

These disruptors are a blip.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
24. That will fix it!
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jul 2016

The first rule of getting out of deep holes is to stop digging. Some folks are just too locked into digging to even direct it.

If you must dig something can we do a ramp or carve steps, or a tunnel upward?

Is just digging a deeper hole the only setting? Maybe look at what's going on with this big ass crater sometimes and maybe a little comprehension will set in at why the person you are fervently ignoring is yelling.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
25. I suppose a lot of people
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jul 2016

Will blame a lot of different things. And the truth is, there's a lot of blame to distribute to a lot of people.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
28. NO!!!!
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jul 2016

You can't fault the Bernie or Busters for it IF...(and thats a big IF in my eyes) Hillary/Kaine lose.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
30. They have been told many times
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jul 2016

They are not wanted or needed. Don't be surprised if they are not there for her.

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