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IF we lose this election because a few asshole delegates push bullshit at the convention... (Original Post) MohRokTah Jul 2016 OP
Do you think a few delegates will change the outcome of the election? David__77 Jul 2016 #1
Given our media, yes. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #4
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #21
Nobody "tainted the Primary process with bias from the very outset" MohRokTah Jul 2016 #22
No such "tainting" ever happened. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #30
It is also the vocal groups protesting that the media is insisting on covering. at the riversedge Jul 2016 #13
A few Green Party infiltrators isn't going to sway the election. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #2
You really don't know how politics works, do you? HERVEPA Jul 2016 #3
Too bad, though, that there's little we would be able to do about it... TreasonousBastard Jul 2016 #5
Already teeing up the blame this far out from the election, huh? vi5 Jul 2016 #6
If we lose it will be 100% the fault of the extreme left. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #9
Yep. You are new to politics. No doubt at all. nt Dawgs Jul 2016 #12
Anybody denying this absolute truth is new to politics. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #14
Right. I forgot. vi5 Jul 2016 #15
Since 1968, EVERY election the Dems lost was the fault of the Extreme Left. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #16
Um...you're proving my point... vi5 Jul 2016 #18
They're concocting a plan tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #7
It won't come down to that UMTerp01 Jul 2016 #8
The DNC... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #10
They have already put a black eye on the convention liberal N proud Jul 2016 #11
If Hillary can't beat Trump... bonemachine Jul 2016 #17
OFFS. progressoid Jul 2016 #19
While I strongly disagree with any delegate "pulling bullshit" at the convention Peachhead22 Jul 2016 #20
It's Clinton Campaign's responsibility to win or lose Armstead Jul 2016 #23
It's the Extreme Left that has caused every Democrtic loss since 1968. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #24
Riiiight. It was all the Extreme Left that helped Reagan win in 80 and 84. progressoid Jul 2016 #25
I hope she wins, because of Trump. But, if she rateyes Jul 2016 #26
That's not true. rockfordfile Jul 2016 #28
How the hell is that a "poke in the eye"? Lord Magus Jul 2016 #29
I still don't think we lose Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #27

Response to MohRokTah (Reply #4)

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
30. No such "tainting" ever happened.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jul 2016

Nor is Bill Clinton supporting privatization of Social Security. And as for shoveling money into the F-35? I'm not sure a Bernie supporter should want to go there.

riversedge

(70,253 posts)
13. It is also the vocal groups protesting that the media is insisting on covering. at the
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jul 2016

rnc--most media focused on the trump stuff and we seldom had a glance of the protestors.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. A few Green Party infiltrators isn't going to sway the election.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jul 2016

But, we're done playing nice with the enemy.

Just because someone latched onto Sanders does not make them an ally, or a decent human being.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. Too bad, though, that there's little we would be able to do about it...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:23 PM
Jul 2016

And they will never, ever admit they are wrong.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
14. Anybody denying this absolute truth is new to politics.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jul 2016

Every time the Democrats have lost starting in 1968, it has been the fault of the extreme left and the party had no choice but to move to the right.

EVERY TIME!

So don't tell me, I've watched the Extreme Left botch this shit up for too long!

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
15. Right. I forgot.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jul 2016

Establishment politics and centrism can never fail. They can only be failed.

"The extreme left" (whatever the fuck that is) has not been a reliable Democratic constituency for at least 20 years now. If you think that people who didn't vote for the Democrat in any elections since the mid 90's are now the ones whose votes are going to cost us the election now then you really must have not been paying attention for the past few decades.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
18. Um...you're proving my point...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jul 2016

If they've not voted or supported the Democratic party sinc 19fucking68......on what planet were you expecting them to support it now? With what plan did you somehow think that you were going to win over people who by your own admission have never been a reliable constituency for the Democratic party?

Besides, wasn't it many Hillary advocates who said repeatedly over the past however many months that "they won't need Bernie supporters" or that the Bernie supporters were just Republican trolls trying to influence the Democratic primary, and that Hillary would "wipe the floor with Trump, no problem"?

Again.....can't be both ways. HRC supporters insisted that she was the best candidate, that she had the best chance to beat Trump, that she was the better GE campaigner, that she had the needed tools and infrastructure and support to beat trump.......so now prove it. Don't blame anyone else, get out there and prove that she was the better candidate rather than pre-emptively whining or placing blame on a group who you admit hasn't been a Democratic constituency for almost 50 damn years.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
8. It won't come down to that
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jul 2016

They think they have more power than they do. Most are very new to the process and don't quite understand how it works.

bonemachine

(757 posts)
17. If Hillary can't beat Trump...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:38 PM
Jul 2016

Well, I suppose it will mean we made the wrong choice in the primaries.

Also, it's gonna demonstrate that we are, on balance, a nation of assholes.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
20. While I strongly disagree with any delegate "pulling bullshit" at the convention
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jul 2016

They would be doing it because the DNC pulled bullshit on them. I know the "they did it first" is kindergarten level nonsense. But you can't solely put the blame on dissenters if they have a legitimate reason to be pissed.

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
25. Riiiight. It was all the Extreme Left that helped Reagan win in 80 and 84.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jul 2016

Those Reagan Democrats were such bleeding heart liberals.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
26. I hope she wins, because of Trump. But, if she
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jul 2016

loses, it's on her. She should not have poked progressives in the eye by choosing Kaine. Had she chosen Warren or Sanders, we wouldn't be seeing this mess today.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
29. How the hell is that a "poke in the eye"?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jul 2016

Kaine is boring, but this notion that he's somehow a conservative is bullshit.

Demsrule86

(68,606 posts)
27. I still don't think we lose
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jul 2016

But those delegates are putting Bernie's revolution in serious jeopardy. No one will want to be a part of that...it will just go away like occupy...which is a darn shame.

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