2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWWYD if as head of DNC you saw an Independent trying to defeat a Democrat?
I don't know maybe it's just me...and perhaps I don't know the rules but it seems to me like there might be some grey area where you might understand why DWS---as chairwoman of the DNC-- might have erred out of caution in protecting a long-standing Democrat and Democratic Party from an outsider who had never had any loyalty to the party. After all, isn't it kind of her job to protect the Party? All she knew was that there was no "D" next to his name and never had been.I mean, she couldn't have known what Bernie and his supporters had planned...Look what she was watching going on with the Republican Party...Trump had completely usurped it and a lot of Republicans weren't liking it and actively and openly were trying to stop him. People were talking about whether they were seeing the death of the Republican Party (and still are).
And again, Bernie was not a Democrat and, as far as I know, never had been. So if part of your job as DNC chairperson (and i realize it's not ALL of her job) is to advance the Democratic Party, you're going to look slightly askance at a life-long Independent trying to "hijack" the ticket.
That's not to say I agree with DWS's other positions like defending Pay Day Loans.
But am I wrong or should people try to see it from the perspective of a DNC chairperson seeing a life-long Independent---with no previous record of loyalty to the Democratic Party--- attempting to ride the party on the way to victory over a candidate with long-established ties and loyalty to the Democratic Party?
Response to Shankapotomus (Original post)
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DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)But he wasn't when he decided to run for President.
He came to the party for resources. He was an outsider.
Error on the side of caution.
coco77
(1,327 posts)He has always preached about how most so called Dems don't follow principles of the party,he is more Democratic he is and outsider because he is a Democrat and most are republicon lite.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)But really, I tired of fighting still fighting a primary that has been decided.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)he wouldn't be another Ralph Nader. We know he's a team player. He endorsed HRC and fundraised for Russ Feingold.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)That's a good point I missed. There's a lot of Democratic resources, that would potentially be summoned into the service of someone who had never expressed any public loyalty to the Democratic Party.
That's another yuuuge consideration.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)at least suggest that she is still not tarnished enough to not be rehabilitated. Considering the circumstances, I think that is a very generous olive branch on your part.
coco77
(1,327 posts)endorsing DWS isn't helping.
onecaliberal
(32,873 posts)If they caucused with dems for decades? Had a better voting record for the people than a lot of so called registered Dems. I'd do nothing. I'd follow the rules, because I have morals and I stand or something.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I know my thoughts on the question ... but then, I've been a registered Democrat for better than 30 years and spent a good part of that working to get Democrats elected.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)at the expense of the other
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)I supported Bernie and wanted him to win. But I didn't actively oppose or object to a Clinton nomination.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)of individuals with their own thoughts and opinions. It is the official statements that they put forth which should be examined, and any action that they took.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Their personal opinions behind the scenes should have no impact on this issue.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)if your running the party. Whether Bernie has an (I) next to his name or a (D) he was a candidate in the DEMOCRATIC primary. Delete this OP. Its disgusting.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)I think it raises legitimate concerns that the chairperson of a political party might have.
If you're open to everyone, no matter their past political loyalty---and I'm not saying Bernie would not have been a good and loyal Democrat---don't you run the risk of attracting candidates with nefarious intentions to the Party?
I understand you might think this thread is disgusting but my point is, whatever she was doing, ---and we still have yet to established what she actually did---DWS is not necessarily deserving of the public beating she is receiving.
I just want to add that I was a Bernie supporter over Hillary all throughout the primaries.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)And it was also Debbie's job to let the Primary process take place. Tampering with it is about as UN-Democratic as it gets.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)NO!
Republicans didn't think Trump was a threat either. Fortunately Bernie is a little bit more intelligent but this crap at the convention with Lock Her Up in the convention hall, is threatening.
So it was not the candidate in our case that was the threat but the candidates rabid followers.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)They tampered with the primary. PERIOD. They even talked about smearing his religion. What they did was disgusting. When the primaries started, Bernie was just as much a Democratic candidate as Hillary.