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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:36 AM Jul 2016

To what level is Trump being controlled by Russia?

To say Russia has no influence over Trump and his businesses is quite foolish. There is something there. What is it? Trump is ready to dismantle NATO. Why?
Why won't Donald Trump release his full Tax Returns for the last 20 years? What has Donald Trump been doing?

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Cha

(297,375 posts)
1. Not sure but journalists are on it.. and Joy Reid is getting warned by wikileaks..
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:40 AM
Jul 2016
Joy Reid
✔ ?@JoyAnnReid
Tomorrow on #AMJoy we'll explore the unprecedented affinity between an American presidential candidate - Trump - Russia and Wilileaks.

WikiLeaks
✔ ?@wikileaks
@JoyAnnReid You are pushing a discredited conspiracy theory. There is no affinity, whatsoever. Our lawyers will monitor your program.
7:57 PM - 23 Jul 2016
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Kim Ghattas
✔ ?@BBCKimGhattas
Wow. Wiki leaks is now into intimidating journalists @JoyAnnReid https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757092238400913408
3:09 AM - 24 Jul 2016
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Joy Reid ?@JoyAnnReid · 4h4 hours ago
This isn't getting as much attention, but Russian meddling in the U.S. election IS the biggest bombshell out there.
https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/07/24/president-obama-on-face-the-nation/

Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump

The DNC said that no financial, donor or personal information appears to have been accessed or taken, suggesting that the breach was traditional espionage, not the work of criminal hackers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html

Ronald Brownstein
?@RonBrownstein
More @SangerNYT "metadata from the released emails suggests that the documents passed through Russian computers"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-emails.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0


UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
6. Donald Trump said he will not honor the treaty and come to the aid of
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:08 AM
Jul 2016

NATO countries threatened by Russia. Google it.

David__77

(23,423 posts)
7. Here is what I see.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:14 AM
Jul 2016

"I don't mind NATO per se, but it has to be reconstituted, it has to be modernized."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/28/donald-trump-nato-very-obsolete/

Also:

SANGER: My point here is, Can the members of NATO, including the new members in the Baltics, count on the United States to come to their military aid if they were attacked by Russia? And count on us fulfilling our obligations ——

TRUMP: Have they fulfilled their obligations to us? If they fulfill their obligations to us, the answer is yes.

HABERMAN: And if not?

TRUMP: Well, I’m not saying if not. I’m saying, right now there are many countries that have not fulfilled their obligations to us.

http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/07/trump-nato/492341/

Based on those comments, I don't get that he advocated dismantling NATO.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
8. Trump essentially tipped off any aggressive leader
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 06:29 AM
Jul 2016

that they can invade a NATO country "that have not fulfilled their obligations to us" without repercussions. It was practically an invitation.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
5. There doesnt necessarily have to be any direct links
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:57 AM
Jul 2016

The Russians may just simply prefer to work with him. They already know Hillary. They already know her beliefs on foreign policy and they may not like it.

Why would they want Trump? Trump has voiced some approval to Putin. And has also suggested he may end the sanctions. Trump may also seem more likely to agree with a pro-Russian solution in Syria as long as it gets rid of ISIS. And yes, he's also suggested a weaker stance with NATO. Or at the very least rule out any NATO expansion. The Russians under no circumstances want Ukraine or Georgia to join NATO.

America tries to do the same thing. We try to influence elections in other countries under the table to benefit our interests. Heck, there was some people claiming the US was trying to influence the Brexit vote last month as well as Natenyahu's election last year in Israel.

If Russia is involved with this...they are playing an old trick that we usually play.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
10. As I said before the dots are pretty close together but for some reason, so many on
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:40 AM
Jul 2016

Here don't want to acknowledge that. They would rather hang on to their DWS pitchforks and be distracted about stupid shit. Those you pose are the EXACT questions we should be asking!

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
11. They're too busy fighting the last primary battle
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:41 AM
Jul 2016

They know we're fucked if Trump wins and turns the US into a Putin puppet state, but they'd rather be right about DWS.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
12. They want blood. And the thing about wanting blood is that
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jul 2016

There is never enough blood to make people feel satiated. It will never end.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
13. I think donnie's personal finance interests
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jul 2016

Plays in to the russian interests. And the russian's are using/conning the con man don for their agenda. Maybe after this election he can get a appointed post over in russia from his buddy.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. They're using each other, yes.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jul 2016

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