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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:41 PM Jul 2016

HRC essentially picks the DNC chair...here are some qualities she should look for among applicants:

Last edited Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:28 PM - Edit history (1)

1) An appreciation of the fact that the party is NOT just the Beltway and big donors, but must also be workers, the poor, those oppressed socially AND economically, and the activists who stand with all of those groups;

2) A lack of ties with corporate power or special interest groups;

3) An absolute commitment to personal and political transparency;

4) A commitment not to support retrograde policies(such as the drug war, the preservation of the payday loan industry, private prisons, polluting industries, and the defense of bad governments in other countries);

5) An understanding that midterm elections are as important as presidential elections, and an willingness to work hard, no matter what, to fire up our core supporters and get out the vote in those midterms(this is crucial, because history proves we can ONLY win midterms when we fire up the vote and the national party works hard and invests heavily in GOTV);

6) An understanding of social media and how to use it to elect Democratic candidates.

To me, this is a bare minimum set of expectations.

Add any others you might have below.

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HRC essentially picks the DNC chair...here are some qualities she should look for among applicants: (Original Post) Ken Burch Jul 2016 OP
lol JI7 Jul 2016 #1
OK...are you laughing because you think that list is unrealistic... Ken Burch Jul 2016 #2
K&R Scuba Jul 2016 #3
Here's my expectation. annavictorious Jul 2016 #4
I'm offering advice. There is nothing disrespectful in that. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #6
It kinda sounded like you were listing expectations. annavictorious Jul 2016 #7
1972, actually. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #9
The issue was that Eagleton had undergone shock therapy after a nervous breakdown. annavictorious Jul 2016 #11
Nobody knew about the shock therapy when Eagleton was nominated. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #13
Yes, I know. annavictorious Jul 2016 #15
I don't advocate a floor fight over the VP slot. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #16
Good list. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #5
Clinton doesn't pick the DNC Chair, the DNC Chair is voted on by DNC committemembers Chathamization Jul 2016 #8
when there is a Dem President , the President pretty much can decide who will be DNC Chair JI7 Jul 2016 #10
Only if the committeemembers decide to blindly follow them Chathamization Jul 2016 #12
I'm sure... zenabby Jul 2016 #14
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. OK...are you laughing because you think that list is unrealistic...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:45 PM
Jul 2016

...or do you actually disagree with anything on it?...

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
4. Here's my expectation.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jul 2016

That people will treat the woman at the head of the party with the same respect they treat a man at the head of the party.

People aren't entitled to dictate terms, even if they're only doing it to help the little lady out.

I trust Hillary's judgment. I'm with her, not with you.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
6. I'm offering advice. There is nothing disrespectful in that.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jul 2016

And it's only on the right who opposed HRC because of her gender.

Everyone who voted for other candidates in OUR primary would have treated HRC in exactly the same way if her name had been Henry.

It was the policies, not the sex organs.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
7. It kinda sounded like you were listing expectations.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jul 2016

Especially because you used the word "expectations".

Offering advice is a good thing, and I actually agree with some of your points.

That said, I've been shaking my head in disbelief over the degree of entitlement that I've been witnessing the last few weeks.

And today I heard the leader of a group of Sanders supporters say that they're going to challenge the VP nomination from the floor. When was the last time that a group of delegates felt entitled to deny the nominee her VP choice? Never, What's different this time?

Let me think.....




 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
9. 1972, actually.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:16 PM
Jul 2016

A lot of delegates at the DNC in Miami voted for Frances "Sissy" Farenthold, instead of McGovern's own selection, Thomas Eagleton(the issue was that Eagleton was a hard-core anti-choice Dem). Farenthold took 405 votes(Eagleton got 1,742 and, for some reason, first-term Alaska U.S. Senator Mike Gravel took 228.

As it turned out, we'd have done far better in that race if Sissy Farenthold had beaten Eagleton.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
11. The issue was that Eagleton had undergone shock therapy after a nervous breakdown.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jul 2016

And McGovern got his choice, disastrous as it was.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
13. Nobody knew about the shock therapy when Eagleton was nominated.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jul 2016

(what we also didn't know was that it was Eagleton who had been anonymously quoted calling McGovern the candidate of "acid, amnesty and abortion" in a Robert Novak column, a description that basically cost McGovern the Catholic vote. If the McGovern campaign had known of that, they would not have chosen Eagleton, and would not have been forced to remove Eagleton from the ticket when the shock therapy story broke).

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
15. Yes, I know.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:34 AM
Jul 2016

That's why he stepped down, but McGovern did get his pick.

So let me recap. As you so helpfully pointed out, if we go back to 1972, we can find an exception to the general rule that a nominee's choice is not challenged from the floor. Of course, those were the days when conventions were really conventions rather than four day long infomercials for political parties.

And I'm sure that if the floor fight over the VP pick happens this year, all the anchors and all the pundits will reassure all the viewers that this happens all the time, if you define "all the time" as "once every 45 years".

I feel so much better now that I know that the media won't spin this into a story about party disunity.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. I don't advocate a floor fight over the VP slot.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:00 AM
Jul 2016

Just pointing out that it has happened.

We also had roll call votes for the position in 1944 and 1956.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
8. Clinton doesn't pick the DNC Chair, the DNC Chair is voted on by DNC committemembers
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:12 PM
Jul 2016

To be one of the candidates I believe you need to be a member of the DNC and collect a certain number of signatures from committeemembers.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
12. Only if the committeemembers decide to blindly follow them
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jul 2016

Just because most committeemembers do a terrible job doesn't mean they have to, or that we should accept that. I'm not sure why anyone would support committeemembers who act as rubber stamps (or vote for such a person, for the committemembers that are voted in by the base).

zenabby

(364 posts)
14. I'm sure...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jul 2016

Mrs. Clinton, soon to be Madame President does not have time to read every single expectation. She will consult with her advisors, and use her executive judgement to figure out who she wants to replace DWS. She will also nominate and preside in her role based on her talents. We can provide our "expectations" by voting - that's all we get to do - 1 vote. Use it wisely.

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