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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:30 PM Jul 2016

The thing is, the DNC didn't NEED to be biased against Bernie in order to stop him.

HRC could probably have counted on victory simply due to her years of organizational work.

Therefore, the DNC had nothing to lose by playing fair and obeying the party rules that obliged them to be absolutely neutral in the primaries.

It was all for nothing.

And it ended up casting an unnecessary shadow on a person who didn't need that kind of "help".

Not only do they owe an apology to Bernie and his supporters, they owe one to HRC as well.

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The thing is, the DNC didn't NEED to be biased against Bernie in order to stop him. (Original Post) Ken Burch Jul 2016 OP
No, they probably didn't. TDale313 Jul 2016 #1
Probably a true statement Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #2
That's how it works. Thou shalt not challenge the establishment nor dare to NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #3
Said the bully to the abused mia Jul 2016 #4
DWS and the DNC were never abused. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #6
The thing is Jeff Weaver's incompetence and strategic blunders did more to stop Bernie than emulatorloo Jul 2016 #5
Agreed with both points. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #7
Writing my post, I do realize I really have to let it the bitterness go emulatorloo Jul 2016 #8
It's ok to feel what you feel. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #9
Ken, thank you so much for you kind words. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #11
Be well, my friend. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #13
... emulatorloo Jul 2016 #14
Self-inflicted wounds are the worst. Scuba Jul 2016 #10
Like shooting oneself in the foot while it's planted firmly in mouth. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #12

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
1. No, they probably didn't.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jul 2016

And it fed into the issue Sanders supporters have had all along that they weren't getting a fair shot.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
3. That's how it works. Thou shalt not challenge the establishment nor dare to
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jul 2016

suggest that maybe, just maybe, the will of the country isn't quite as "centrist" as they would like us all to believe.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
6. DWS and the DNC were never abused.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:48 PM
Jul 2016

I've endorsed HRC and stand by that endorsement. But the DNC did damage it had no reason to do in this.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
5. The thing is Jeff Weaver's incompetence and strategic blunders did more to stop Bernie than
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jul 2016

anything else.

I am still bitter about Weaver's disorginization, failure to broaden Bernie's coalition and his insistence Bernie engage in negative campaigning before NY when clearly Bernie was uncomfortable with it because that is not who he is.

I need to let go of this but in my mind Bernie could have gone all the way. Armchair quarterback ing, I know. I should be more forgiving as I do realize that Sanders campaign was probably surprised at how well they were doing. And Weaver can't be blamed for suddenly being in over his head.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. Agreed with both points.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jul 2016

Bernie wanted to build a multiracial coalition and tried hard to do so...if anyone stopped that from happening, it was Weaver.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
8. Writing my post, I do realize I really have to let it the bitterness go
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jul 2016

Doesn't change anything, and I certainly don't believe Weaver intended to fail Bernie. He's only human and I think he honestly tried to the best of his ability.

Bernie is an amazing person and he accomplished so much this primary season.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
9. It's ok to feel what you feel.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jul 2016

We were treated quite badly by the party establishment in this whole process...we were treated as if our candidate had no right to run and as if his supporters were intruders who had no right to have a say in the primary process.

We were treated as if we didn't care about racism, sexism, and homophobia(and as if working for economic justice somehow meant working against "social justice"-never mind that before this year, the two causes were never actually in conflict). We were treated as if we didn't WANT LGBTQ people(many of whom did end up supporting our candidate)POC, and women to be part of our movement(even though everyone who said that of us knew it was untrue).

We were treated as if we were something that had to be crushed at any cost, something that had no legitimacy whatsoever.

I accepted that HRC would be the nominee, feel we've had a major impact on the platform and the future of the party(the change on superdelegates was a major victory for people power), but it remains the fact that our candidate did not get the nomination.

It's inevitable that we'd feel mourning and some anger.

The main thing to remember is, what we did was worth it, and we should all be proud of that.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
11. Ken, thank you so much for you kind words.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jul 2016

I do think about what might have been, but you are right it was all worth it.

I need to be up front as well and say we probably don't agree 100% on the DNC issue, as I feel that despite DWS's bluster I don't beleive that the DNC did anything to >actively< harm Sanders campaign. But her attitude was horrible and you are right that she owes a huge apology to every one. I am so glad she's finally resigned.

Anyway, again Thanks. You have made me feel so much better. And onward and upward to rebuilding the Democratic Party.

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