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David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:52 PM Jul 2016

I Voted for Bernie, But I Don't Like How Debbie Wasserman Schultz Was So Trashed!

Mister Brad Marshall, the DNC's CFO should be immediately fired for his unforgivable emails that clearly recommended that my Democratic Parry play games in Southern states with Bernie Sanders being Jewish, his "belief" and that he may or may not be an "atheist".

Marshall is clearly too sick of a human being to hold such a powerful and privileged position within my party!

Sick? Yes, sick because it is clear he wanted to flame ugly stereotypes about Southerners, who he calls his "peeps", ugly stereotypes about Jews and their "belief" and ugly stereotypes about atheists. Marshall's emails clearly reveal his comfort in encouraging that sick shit when he thinks he's writing in private.

Marshall's recent apology is after the fact and only because he is exposed and shamed.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz has been hung out to dry and is taking the blame for the actions of a man who probably did tilt the balance against my candidate, Bernie. I am disappointed that Bernie called for Debbie's resignation just as she was poised to chair the convention.

This Bernie fan and voter feels Debbie got roughed up in a horrible way that I'm not comfortable with at all.

Why did the male who handled the money get a pass and the woman who had worked her heart out all year get embarrassed and smeared like this.

Get rid of the goddamned super delegate crap once and for all. Fire Brad Marshall and do so publicly. Make the Dmocratic Party more democratic. Yes, Hillary should have picked Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders to be Vice President in my opinion and I'm extremely disappointed with Tim Kaine.

But beating the hell out of Debbie Wasserman Schultz this way is totally repugnant to me.

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I Voted for Bernie, But I Don't Like How Debbie Wasserman Schultz Was So Trashed! (Original Post) David Zephyr Jul 2016 OP
She's the boss runaway hero Jul 2016 #1
President Obama is the boss. nt DURHAM D Jul 2016 #3
some info runaway hero Jul 2016 #6
So the piling on against her begins. David Zephyr Jul 2016 #11
It's a cold world runaway hero Jul 2016 #14
Absolutely Agree Me. Jul 2016 #32
That's interesting...cause it was just reported (MSNBC) DWS was resistant to resigning. PragmaticLiberal Jul 2016 #30
Good message, David. DWS is no angel, but Hortensis Jul 2016 #60
Honestly, the super delegate question is a mute point. The DNC learned a big lesson eastwestdem Jul 2016 #2
I hope. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #4
Amen! No good deed ever goes unpunished. nt glennward Jul 2016 #34
I certainly hope so. Little Star Jul 2016 #36
We can only hope! leftofcool Jul 2016 #53
If you are the one riding the horse, you have to rateyes Jul 2016 #5
She didn't do anything wrong. David Zephyr Jul 2016 #8
Did she know about the email and not Fire Marshall? rateyes Jul 2016 #9
Thank YOU!!! "I'll be sending DWS a donation now." Her Sister Jul 2016 #12
Bingo. nt kstewart33 Jul 2016 #38
Where does the buck stop? NWCorona Jul 2016 #55
I will leave this here. StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #45
Super Delegates are here to stay, and yes, they are needed Iliyah Jul 2016 #7
Thank you, David! BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #10
Thank you. I'm supporting the ticket. I'm a Democrat. David Zephyr Jul 2016 #15
She instigated many of those babylonsister Jul 2016 #13
Come on. You don't know she instigated those emails. David Zephyr Jul 2016 #19
Why do you think she stepped down babylonsister Jul 2016 #26
WOMAN WAS HARASSED & BULLIED! ~ NOT COOL! Her Sister Jul 2016 #16
Me too ... BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #18
Thankfully she survived breast cancer & is a smart cookie! I wish her better than well! Her Sister Jul 2016 #21
As a breast cancer survivor BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #24
I'm with you. David Zephyr Jul 2016 #25
Or not StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #48
Nah! Am Supporting DWS! lol! :-) Her Sister Jul 2016 #49
It's pretty ugly that's for sure. Little Star Jul 2016 #37
Yea, but Bernie had to have his pound of flesh, ya know. leftofcool Jul 2016 #54
My favorite thread today! Scuba Jul 2016 #17
I feel horrible about this. Time will prove how bad this was. David Zephyr Jul 2016 #22
snort! nt babylonsister Jul 2016 #27
Thanks. I also was wondering why she was getting all the blame for something Brad Marshall did. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #20
Women always held to higher standards David Zephyr Jul 2016 #29
She fought, she lost, her watch has ended. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #23
Yeah! FINITO! who cares! Till it happens again! NAH! NOT FORGETTING! Her Sister Jul 2016 #28
Leaving this here StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #47
Time to donate to Tim Canova's campaign again. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #56
Putin is such a stand up paragon of freedom. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #31
Public Decorum is a lost art runaway hero Jul 2016 #42
The buck stops with DWS, but others should be gone as well. Vinca Jul 2016 #33
Dislike for DWS predates the primaries by a good bit Bradical79 Jul 2016 #35
Dislike = BULLYING & HARRASSMENT! Ah, now I know! Her Sister Jul 2016 #39
Leaving this here StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #46
One has to believe ultimately HRC made the decision. R0ckyRac00n Jul 2016 #40
This doesn't help our party at all. David Zephyr Jul 2016 #61
Not quite. She went on many TV interviews saying the DNC acted impartially. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #63
Thank you, DZ, for your clear-eyed, fair assessment of the situation. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #41
This Bernie Leftie stands with Debbie. David Zephyr Jul 2016 #57
Thank you David. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #43
There's my Starry Messenger! David Zephyr Jul 2016 #58
Certainly he should go dsc Jul 2016 #44
DWS in a moment of honesty... SpareribSP Jul 2016 #50
DWS was forced out for a reason, IMO. Tatiana Jul 2016 #51
She lost any respect when she openly campaigned for a Republican hobbit709 Jul 2016 #52
Agreed. But people either forget or are unaware of this fact. n/t Tatiana Jul 2016 #62
I'm not a fan of DWS and I do believe some blame must be put on her but I actually agree NWCorona Jul 2016 #59

runaway hero

(835 posts)
6. some info
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-dws-wanted-to-paint-obama-as-anti-woman-and-anti-semitic-if-ousted-as-dnc-chair/

Buried inside a Politico report about Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz‘s (D-FL) future aspirations was an interesting revelation: “When [Wasserman Schultz] sensed Obama was considering replacing her as chair in 2013, she began to line up supporters to suggest the move was both anti-woman and anti-Semitic.”

Wasserman Schultz is reportedly very much at odds with White House staffers, and rarely even speaks with President Barack Obama.

three years ago.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
32. Absolutely Agree
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jul 2016

Never was a fan but I have disliked the way she's been scapegoated throughout this entire election cycle. And the fact that it was a man who actually sent the email and men who have been the ones primarily calling for her head for months does indeed put a shameful cast on the entire affair.

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)
30. That's interesting...cause it was just reported (MSNBC) DWS was resistant to resigning.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jul 2016

Basically President Obama put his foot down...so to speak.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
60. Good message, David. DWS is no angel, but
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jul 2016

this is about people wanting someone to blame being told everything is one person's fault, and how many bother to question that or learn the name and face of anyone else? I do not respect this behavior.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
2. Honestly, the super delegate question is a mute point. The DNC learned a big lesson
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jul 2016

this cycle. They are clearly going to be much more strict in who they let run in their primaries, and someone who recently switched to the party is unlikely to make the cut in the future.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
5. If you are the one riding the horse, you have to
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jul 2016

be the one who ropes the steer. She was riding the horse. She should be held accountable along with the CFO and anyone else involved in tilting the primaries.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
8. She didn't do anything wrong.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jul 2016

No emails were from her.

It's bullshit that she has been so humiliated like this. I hate disloyalty for expediency.

Brad Marshall should be fired. He's the asshole

I'll be sending DWS a donation now.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
10. Thank you, David!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jul 2016

I am not a DWS fan. But this OTT trashing has actually caused me to contribute to DWS's campaign!

The more trashing I see on DU, the more $ she'll get from me.

I also believe that when you've had time to think about it, you will change your mind about Tim Kaine. I did. He really is an outstanding choice.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
19. Come on. You don't know she instigated those emails.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jul 2016

That's unfair. She was treated cruelly. I'm ashamed she was thrown under the bus this way.

We disagree.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
26. Why do you think she stepped down
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jul 2016

if she's so guilt-free? She headed that ship and it didn't do what it was supposed to do, and lied to boot. Did you read some of the e-mails? Here you go:

https://theintercept.com/2016/07/22/dnc-staffers-mocked-the-bernie-sanders-campaign-leaked-emails-show/

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
16. WOMAN WAS HARASSED & BULLIED! ~ NOT COOL!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jul 2016

DISGUSTING! I find it disgusting when Trump does it & for sure in this case!

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
22. I feel horrible about this. Time will prove how bad this was.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jul 2016

Thank you, Scuba. Really not a proud moment for my party. We are better people than this.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
29. Women always held to higher standards
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:18 PM
Jul 2016

But this public humiliation this way at this moment is reprehensible. It was Marshall's email. He's a jerk. Sad for Debbie today. She deserved better than this.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
23. She fought, she lost, her watch has ended.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jul 2016

I'm sure she will be rewarded for her role in helping HRC with an appointment.

Others may need to be fired too, but DWS is simply being held responsible.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
33. The buck stops with DWS, but others should be gone as well.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jul 2016

I don't see why she was allowed to stay on after the debacles that were the 2010 and 2014 midterm elections. That's not trashing her, it's history.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
35. Dislike for DWS predates the primaries by a good bit
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jul 2016

That, plus her being the DNC chair, was probably why she gets more grief than anyone else with the DNC.

R0ckyRac00n

(84 posts)
40. One has to believe ultimately HRC made the decision.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jul 2016

Who could do so if she were opposed? She did it for the good of the party and moving forward. I appreciate that.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
61. This doesn't help our party at all.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jul 2016

Brad Marshall should be fired. That's it.

Debbie has led the party to a point where we will win the White House again. And now?

Americans watching won't like how Debbie was treated? Why? Because she didn't do anything wrong to be humiliated like this. Horrible.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
63. Not quite. She went on many TV interviews saying the DNC acted impartially.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:25 PM
Jul 2016


She failed to take care of her house.
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
41. Thank you, DZ, for your clear-eyed, fair assessment of the situation.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:49 PM
Jul 2016

Some pretty dodgy "liberal" values are on display in the threads that cheer her public humiliation and that applaud her overt harassment.

Sickening, despicable and not worthy of true Democrats.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
44. Certainly he should go
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:12 PM
Jul 2016

but honestly, she was the boss here and she didn't fire him immediately after the leak when she certainly knew he sent it. For her to be fired and not him is ridiculous. But honestly, I can't see letting her stay either. She would have been gone anyhow after the election and was a figurehead after Bernie conceded in any case.

SpareribSP

(325 posts)
50. DWS in a moment of honesty...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jul 2016


I also take the word of the Bernie campaign that DWS was terrible to them. She did some nasty stuff and I wouldn't be shocked if she was against them from the very beginning, and it's hard to feel sorry for her losing her job when she didn't do her job in the first place.

It doesn't help that on top of that she supported bad policy, supported Republicans, and didn't seem very good at running the DNC, even without the bias.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
51. DWS was forced out for a reason, IMO.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jul 2016

If the reporting is to be believed, the President got involved.

Both Clinton and Obama are loyal to their people.

I think there may be more damaging info out there that could be leaked about DWS's shenanigans.

This is a preemptive and strategic decision to ask her to move out of the way. I don't think it's a witch hunt at all.

And yes, Marshall's actions were reprehensible.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
52. She lost any respect when she openly campaigned for a Republican
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jul 2016

and wouldn't endorse the Democrat running against said Republican.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
59. I'm not a fan of DWS and I do believe some blame must be put on her but I actually agree
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jul 2016

All the spotlight has been placed on her and that isn't fair.

The frenzy is on and the news must be feed.

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