2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSchultz must step down NOW!!!
As a strong Hillary supporter I can fully understand why the Sanders' supporters have every reason to be pissed. The buck always stops with the leader. Not only does Schultz need to go now, without any further appearances before the convention, every DNC employee caught trying to put their fingers on the scales needs to be gone now as well. We don't need to turn convention into the Republican convention clown show.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Not after the convention. Others too need to resign immediately.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)radical noodle
(8,003 posts)apcalc
(4,465 posts)Anyone involved ....get them OUT.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)NEVER GONNA FORGET THIS!
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)She'll be fine. I'm sure bernie already has some one in mind. Maybe Jane.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)As disgusting as TRUMP!
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)And they will bar that door protecting their special ceiling however dirty it has to get.
Throw in Putin and Assange and the picture becomes crystal clear what took place.
Like Hillary, Debbie was targeted early on.
Its about breaking the Dem Parry.
Exactly what was done via the TeaParty to the Republicans.
Same message same group only now its gained a lethal international edge.
This nation needs Hillary/Kaine more than ever before.
This is the only channce to save what hasn't already been sold off & portioned out to foreign & domestic organized crime.
DWS is probably glad as hell to be done with that shitty job.
She will be fine. She is a strong woman. The very kind the asshats of the boyz the club fears. ya know. But
they're all about to lose their clubhouse and Hillary knows who they all are.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Argh!!! Anyone celebrating her going with glee, is DISGUSTING to ME!
But you are right :
This is the only channce to save what hasn't already been sold off & portioned out to foreign & domestic organized crime.
DWS is probably glad as hell to be done with that shitty job.
She will be fine. She is a strong woman. The very kind the asshats of the boyz the club fears. ya know. But
they're all about to lose their clubhouse and Hillary knows who they all are.
Response to Her Sister (Reply #23)
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Her Sister
(6,444 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)That she is hard line on marijuana, that she is anti-poor (which, amazingly includes many woman) via her lack of support for pay-day loan legislation.
Yeh, much easier to say be uninformed and say it's because she's a woman. I guess I must hate Elizabeth Warren also, huh, since she's powerful woman? (in case you don't understand, I think Warren is great)
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Red Mountain
(1,733 posts)I don't think she should be given a free pass on her horrendous record based on her sex.
That would be wrong.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)"nah, nah, I can't hear you"
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)That would disrespect the women that raised me.
Some exception should be made.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)A male DNC chair who made the same choices would have got the same treatment.
And she was never bullied.
Are you saying that women in positions of power in this party must always get special deference, just because they ARE women?
What greater good does that serve?
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Good job.
Let's move on now in defeating Donald J. Trump.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I hope Hillary rewards Debbie for falling on her sword over this with the Chief of Staff post in her White House.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)thats after her Rep seat.
Thanks Putin! Boyz club wins..woohoo!!
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)...if that happens it will be after Hillary wins the election. But don't forget, Hillary will need to win again in 2020.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Seems he won in 2012 regardless.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:05 AM - Edit history (1)
There was never any reason for Obama to have a guy like Rahm in that job. When you are a Democratic president, it's only the RIGHT that your administration's supposed to treat as the enemy.
It was largely Rahm's fault we lost in 2010. He helped cause the mass decline in turnout by essentially ordering the Obama movement to demobilize and go away.
Hopefully, Chicago will be free of him soon.
And yes, Obama won in 2012. That doesn't mean that it doesn't matter that Rahm spent most of his time pushing the administration to the right and giving greater influence to corporations and big donors than to working poor, the poor who aren't allowed to work by the system, and the activists who stand with them.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)And my finger will occasionally linger on the shift key as I type.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)He opposed having the Obama movement organize public support for healthcare reform.
He fought to make the healthcare bill as limited and pro-corporate as possible.
He pushed for the cabinet to be mainly bland centrists(something we never needed to have).
He essentially made the White House staff a progressive-free zone.
He pushed for Summers and Geithner to be in charge of the economy and the budget.
And he had helped cause the dilution of the healthcare and financial regulation bills by making sure that as many Democratic congressional nominees as possible in 2006 and 2008 were conservatives who based their political identity on trying to stop a Democratic president from getting anything done.
What did Rahm do, in either his job as CoS or his previous job chairing the DCCC that was in any way defensible, let alone an achievement.
We never needed a person in either of those positions who saw the progressive wing of the party as something to be stopped at any cost.
None of our problems as a party have ever been caused by those in its left wing.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)All of our problems as a party have been caused by the extreme left.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)It's not "extreme" to say that we should support single-payer healthcare...or run our trade policies on corporate terms...or that we should spend more on domestic programs and less on war. Or that it should be easier to organize a union in your workplace. OR that the police should be trained to defuse encounters with civilians rather than to shoot first and ask questions later.
All of those positions have widespread, usually majority support.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)This is not about individuals, regardless of how hard they have worked for the President and the Party. This is about UNITING the party and thereby WINNING! When you run an organization you have to make hard decisions. Also when a person becomes a net negative for their organization, he/she has to realize that and step away.
insta8er
(960 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)As for you tin foil hat, I wasn't aware you took it off.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)IMO, she has been a disastrous leader. But let's be careful about making this the lead new story going into the convention.
That's why the Russians/Wikileaks released this when they did. They want the story going into the convention to be "democrats in chaos." Do not play into their hand.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Tomorrow it will be over Hillary and President Obama moved decisively, unlike the Trump campaign which allow the controversy surrounding Melanai's speech to drown out their convention for two days. This folks is how leadership operates.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:26 PM - Edit history (1)
This is the best way to handle this.
But the party itself has to keep calm and focus on the task at hand.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)But yeh, the task is to defeat Trump.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Frankly, she's wildly out of step with a party that, for instance, supports legal cannabis by wide margins- whereas she allied herself with Sheldon Adelson's anti-drug org to kill medical marijuana reform in 2014.
Note to jury: This is a factual statement.
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/on-medical-marijuana-debbie-wasserman-schultz-sounds-like-a-republican-6544176
She has been damaging our brand for a while, now.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:27 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm glad she's gone, but let's not lose focus.
And fuck
Julian Assange.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But again, you can't have hackers 'expose' the turd in your refrigerator if you don't shit in the thing in the first place.
runaway hero
(835 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I agree with you.