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AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:36 PM Jul 2016

Latest: Russians Leaked Democrats emails to help Donald Trump

Last edited Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Was there ever a doubt. Really? Russian hackers hacked ONLY the DNC servers.Trump has Russian mafia ties. Trump is BFF with Putin. Dots are pretty close together there. Does not require great deductive skills...

If there is outrage to be had, it should really be directed at the ties between trump and russia. This is a direct threat to our country. Foreign entities are trying to manipulate our elections.

Clinton campaign manager: Russians leaked Democrats’ emails to help Donald Trump http://a.msn.com/r/2/BBuKAc1?m=en-us&a=1

More fun stuff :

RESEARCHERS: Yes, Russia really did hack the Democratic National Committee

http://www.businessinsider.com/security-researchers-russian-spies-hacked-dnc-guccifer-2-possible-disinformation-campaign-2016-6

Russian government hackers steal DNC files on Donald Trump

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/14/russian-dnc-hack-donald-trump-files-us-election

Democratic National Committee Breached by Russian Hackers

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-national-committee-breached-russian-hackers-n592061

Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html

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Latest: Russians Leaked Democrats emails to help Donald Trump (Original Post) AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 OP
O Brother... that reasoning is silly yourpaljoey Jul 2016 #1
Nah your reasoning that the reasoning is silly- is silly! Her Sister Jul 2016 #3
Or an expert on literally anything else RonniePudding Jul 2016 #6
Flag on the play... MohRokTah Jul 2016 #5
And who did the DNC help? B Calm Jul 2016 #2
who? Her Sister Jul 2016 #4
Itself. And who is russia helping? Itself. And THAT should be the greater concern AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #7
So your saying the DNC and Russia are alike? B Calm Jul 2016 #8
What?!?!!? That is the opposite of what I am saying. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #9
"Mook believes" ain't proof it was Russians.... Scuba Jul 2016 #10
Here's another article from the WAPO: AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #12
This is what MSNBC should've been covering all day woolldog Jul 2016 #11
Exactly! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #14
Conspiracy theory nonsense unless and until confirmed by Homeland Security or FBI or POTUS Turn CO Blue Jul 2016 #13
Here is some more for your reading pleasure. To be clear, these are not MY theories. Just reporting AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #15
Here are some more fun ones. Especially the one where cyber security firms are AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #16
A lot of assumptions are being made here without any proof davidn3600 Jul 2016 #17
"Dots are pretty close together there. Does not require great deductive skills... " tralala Jul 2016 #18
Maybe we should tell those cyber security firms to remove their tin foil hats too? AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #19
It seems the emails are "fact", who released them is immaterial unless NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #20
There are hoax emails being posted here and elsewhere on the net- bettyellen Jul 2016 #21
I disagree that who released the information is immaterial. Things do not exist in a vacuum. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #22
Yes Trenzalore Jul 2016 #23
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
3. Nah your reasoning that the reasoning is silly- is silly!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jul 2016

and obvious!! Ain't it!

This is a developing story, & am not thinking you're an expert on any of it!

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
9. What?!?!!? That is the opposite of what I am saying.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jul 2016

All this attention on DWS and not on the Russian tie is baffling.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. "Mook believes" ain't proof it was Russians....
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jul 2016

But claiming it was Russians serves to discredit the content.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
12. Here's another article from the WAPO:
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jul 2016

Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html

China also hacked into the U.S. And when we call them on it. And guess what? They also deny it. Oh my heavens, I am just so shocked to pieces.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/19/china-hacking-us-companies-for-secrets-despite-cyber-pact-.html

C'mon, man. Let's give deductive reasoning a chance is all I am saying...

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
11. This is what MSNBC should've been covering all day
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jul 2016

instead of the content of the email. Russia injecting themselves into the GE is shocking.

Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
13. Conspiracy theory nonsense unless and until confirmed by Homeland Security or FBI or POTUS
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jul 2016


We should be BETTER than flinging these silly theories around.

Russians?

WHERE IS THE INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION FROM A GOVERNMENT SPOKESPERSON?

Is this a fucking joke? We're going to allow a campaign to reignite the cold war with Russia, without even hearing from the FBI or POTUS first?

I call bullshit unless and until someone from FBI or Homeland Security holds a press conference.

Probably was some DNC employee. 90% of data breaches and thefts are committed by employees.
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
20. It seems the emails are "fact", who released them is immaterial unless
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jul 2016

the source somehow altered or faked them. That does not appear to be the case in this instance though....the emails are real, they happened, there was collusion. Those are the facts that need to be discussed, not using the source as a diversion from discussion of the facts.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
21. There are hoax emails being posted here and elsewhere on the net-
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jul 2016

And many innocuous things ending described ny ignorant folks as crimes.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
22. I disagree that who released the information is immaterial. Things do not exist in a vacuum.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:49 PM
Jul 2016

It gives context and intention. We have 2 issues going on. One is the emails themselves and the other is that russians hacked into the DNC servers. The issue of the emails prove that DWS has what? Bias? Don't we all? The burning question there is not whether she has personal bias, but whether she acted inappropriately in the capacity of the DNC chair on that bias.

But in the overall scheme of things, she is NOT that all powerful. The primaries went decisively to Hillary and it sure as hell wasn't because of DWS. It just sure looks to me like she is being scapegoated for anger on different fronts. And coinkydinkily, it happens the day after Kaine is named VP.

The more burning question should be why the Russians are involving themselves into our primaries? I find this far more disturbing. So, to focus on just the emails to me is like trying to address a disease by its symptoms and not its cause.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
23. Yes
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:53 PM
Jul 2016

Russian intelligence helping Donald Trump by sowing discord amongst democrats isn't something that should be discussed.

Go on with your petty primary hurting.

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