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tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:57 PM Jul 2016

A former Rand Paul campaign staffer says to look into Putin link!

On MSNBC stating that the ties between Trump's changing of the RNC platform to reflect changes to issues dealing with Ukraine, his ties to Putin, and the timing of the release of emails should be investigated.

WOW! This is gaining traction here...

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A former Rand Paul campaign staffer says to look into Putin link! (Original Post) tallahasseedem Jul 2016 OP
I do not believe this. Iliyah Jul 2016 #1
What don't you believe. That there is Trump link to Putin or that someone is going to look into it? glennward Jul 2016 #3
Trump's campaign manager has ties to pro Russian politicians alfredo Jul 2016 #14
I think there is a 'there' there. {Ouch, that sentence hurts.} randome Jul 2016 #4
There are multiple sources on this now. It's all Ilsa Jul 2016 #22
Doesn't surprise me one bit. Putin is the richest man in the world, well worth over $200 BILLION BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #2
Damn, I didn't know he had that much money... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #6
Stolen from the Russian people. nt glennward Jul 2016 #8
PBS did a show on him elmac Jul 2016 #16
It makes sense...and is worth looking into. nt eastwestdem Jul 2016 #5
Thank you. My post died w/o notice yesterday. Atticus Jul 2016 #7
You're welcome! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #9
I wonder how much Trump has invested in Russian real estate and businesses. George II Jul 2016 #10
Good article at TPM peggysue2 Jul 2016 #20
Manafort (and his family) have a history, and well known around central Connecticut... George II Jul 2016 #23
You might find this thread interesting..... msanthrope Jul 2016 #11
Rand Paul campaign staffer? Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #12
Manafort is the link.... dawnie51 Jul 2016 #13
The oligarch's are rockin. jalan48 Jul 2016 #15
I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but..... Fla Dem Jul 2016 #17
Colluding with foreign powers should be investigated to the fullest bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #18
Republican shitnanigans RapSoDee Jul 2016 #19
Oops! peggysue2 Jul 2016 #21
 

glennward

(989 posts)
3. What don't you believe. That there is Trump link to Putin or that someone is going to look into it?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jul 2016
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. I think there is a 'there' there. {Ouch, that sentence hurts.}
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jul 2016

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Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
22. There are multiple sources on this now. It's all
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:05 PM
Jul 2016

Coming together. DT can't borrow big sums from most US banks because of his default history. He's getting his financing through russian oligarchs close to Putin. Read the Wiki page on Manafort.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
2. Doesn't surprise me one bit. Putin is the richest man in the world, well worth over $200 BILLION
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jul 2016

according to an ex-CPA who worked for him. He hides his wealth in dummy-corps and steals from the Russian people.
http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2015/02/15/putins-net-worth-is-200-billion-says-russias-once-largest-foreigner-investor/

And Trump only respects people with a LOT of money. Should he ever become president, he'd sell out this country piece by piece. Bet on it. It's his business model - using his name to make profit without contributing to this country in any way. Putin would pay him well for his "services".

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
16. PBS did a show on him
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jul 2016

He has amassed a fortune while screwing the average Russian. He would make a great republican.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
9. You're welcome!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jul 2016

I think a lot of posts died unceremoniously due to Kaine's speech!

This is a very scary story...the more that is coming out (especially on Twitter), the crazier it gets!

peggysue2

(10,831 posts)
20. Good article at TPM
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jul 2016

About the Trump and Putin connection, Trump's financial/real estate investors, Manafort's dubious Ukraine relationship (reminds me of the movie Crisis is Our Brand) and the GOP platform changes.

Trump is tainted in so many ways. That's why he's desperate to paint the Clintons as corrupt partners in crime. Look Over There! strategy.

You start digging and the narrative is horrifying.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. Manafort (and his family) have a history, and well known around central Connecticut...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jul 2016

...his family were in the "contracting business" and his father was the long-time Mayor of New Britain.

I wonder how Trump feels about the fact that his campaign manager's father was an immigrant?

dawnie51

(959 posts)
13. Manafort is the link....
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:38 PM
Jul 2016

its obvious. Has been all along, But we were too busy jerking around with state dept emails, and whatever incendiary piece of crap Drumpf spewed off every day. Traitorous behaviors!!!!

Fla Dem

(23,690 posts)
17. I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but.....
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jul 2016
Trump & Putin. Yes, It's Really a Thing
ByJOSH MARSHALLPublishedJULY 23, 2016, 4:15 PM EDT

Over the last year there has been a recurrent refrain about the seeming bromance between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. More seriously, but relatedly, many believe Trump is an admirer and would-be emulator of Putin's increasingly autocratic and illiberal rule. But there's quite a bit more to the story. At a minimum, Trump appears to have a deep financial dependence on Russian money from persons close to Putin. And this is matched to a conspicuous solicitousness to Russian foreign policy interests where they come into conflict with US policies which go back decades through administrations of both parties. There is also something between a non-trivial and a substantial amount of evidence suggesting Putin-backed financial support for Trump or a non-tacit alliance between the two men.

More>>>>
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing
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Donald Trump's and Vladimir Putin's Shared Agenda Should Alarm Anyone Concerned About Democracy

BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
JUL 24, 2016
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PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA—Back during the late Avignon Presidency, Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo noticed something hinky going on at the Department of Justice regarding the appointment and dismissal of various U.S. Attorneys around the country. So he dug around, stayed with the story and, eventually, it blew up as a legitimate scandal that touched not only the DOJ but also provided a window into the phony "voter fraud" campaigns that lie behind various voter-suppression schemes that continue to plague the country. Since then, when Marshall gets his teeth into something, the rest of us should start to pay attention, and right now he's onto the strange collusion between He, Trump and Vladimir Putin, and he is sounding a fire bell in the night, to borrow the image used by local Philadelphia transient Thomas Jefferson to describe slavery.

In brief: In his business dealings, He, Trump seems increasingly dependent on money from Russia and from the former Soviet republics within its increasingly active sphere of influence. This is because most of the big banks on this side of the pond won't go near him without HazMat suits. (Gee, could it be that his sudden emergence as a Warren-esque crusader against the "rigged system" of the banksters is less of a principled opposition and simply pure animal vengeance? Unpossible!) As Marshall points out, this isn't exactly a deep corporate secret, as The Washington Post explained:

Trump has conveyed a different view, informed in part through his business ambitions. Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world. "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets," Trump's son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. "We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

More>>>>

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a46984/donald-trump-vladimir-putin/
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Right Turn Opinion
Trump proves he’s a Putin lapdog
By Jennifer Rubin July 21

The most remarkable words Wednesday were not uttered by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.). (Really, is telling people to vote their conscience such a wacky idea?) They came from Donald Trump, who in an interview with the New York Times simultaneously denigrated the United States in terms far harsher than President Obama has ever used, demonstrated his jaw-dropping ignorance and fueled concerns that there is some fishy connection between the Trump team and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

He said in the interview, “I don’t think we have the right to lecture [other countries]. Look at what is happening in our country.” This is pure left-wing anti-American bile. We are too disreputable, too corrupt to offer leadership to the world, says Trump — and the likes of Noam Chomsky. Had Obama said, “Who are we to tell China to respect human rights?,” the right would have gone bananas.

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ttps://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/21/trump-proves-hes-a-putin-lapdog/
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And there are a lot more articles out there postulating a real tie between Trump and Putin. Now add the Russian hack of the DNC emails and the well timed release and you really have to begin to wonder.

bucolic_frolic

(43,181 posts)
18. Colluding with foreign powers should be investigated to the fullest
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:59 PM
Jul 2016

this is not a partisan issue, this is an American issue

There's not even anything stealth about it, it's out in the open

If House Republicans have an ounce of patriotism, they will open
an investigation immediately

peggysue2

(10,831 posts)
21. Oops!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jul 2016

Didn't see FlaDem's link to the TPM article. A fascinating, horrifying article. As are the others linked above.

Sorry for the duplication.

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