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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:51 PM Jul 2016

I don't have any feelings about Debbie Wasserman Schultz either way !!!

But if giving her head on a proverbial platter to her detractors satiates them I am all for it.

As Carl Bernstein says this is the "Gettysburg of elections". I know which side i am on.

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I don't have any feelings about Debbie Wasserman Schultz either way !!! (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 OP
At this point I think she should just step aside and resign. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #1
If for no other reason than to stop the whining RonniePudding Jul 2016 #2
"If for no other reason than to effect some small measure of damage control." cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #7
Whatever stops the whining I'm cool with RonniePudding Jul 2016 #19
It won't stop the whining. They want Clinton's head on a platter, sufrommich Jul 2016 #22
I agree DawgHouse Jul 2016 #26
PUMA runaway hero Jul 2016 #38
Bingo! eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #39
Agree MoonRiver Jul 2016 #4
But not today. Justice Jul 2016 #9
I do Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #3
Article V, Section IV of the Party's Charter tells me all I need to know about what to feel. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #5
For the sake of the party she has to go. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #8
once she loses her seat to Tim Canova, she will land on her feet as a lobbyist yurbud Jul 2016 #15
My uncle lived in Century Village, right smack dab in the middle of her district. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #20
Damage control. That's what I see it as. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #23
Unfortunately Obama said he has her back and HRC gave a public big thank you yesterday. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #6
Van Jones should run for something. yurbud Jul 2016 #16
He's really accomplished, but he has been the best pundit on CNN throughout the primaries. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #21
Los Angeles , Ca is his legal residence, per the California Legal Bar site Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #36
He let go of Van Jones<<< that set a bad tone for asshat right wingers to push on Pres. Obama Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #34
I didn't have a clear PatSeg Jul 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author johara Jul 2016 #11
I am in favor of disposing of anything that gets away in the stop of stopping Trump. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author johara Jul 2016 #29
I have no problem in seeing her go. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author johara Jul 2016 #31
To me Trump is Hitler. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author johara Jul 2016 #37
Reminds me of when Christine O'Donnell DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #40
Public perception is strong enough that she needed to go just on that basis. randome Jul 2016 #12
She still has her House seat. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #14
However, she may not have even that after August 30. DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #17
I think Tim Canova will be fine should he unseat her. randome Jul 2016 #18
this is effing ridiculous. Yes, Trump is bad. He doesn't have a snowballs chance JCanete Jul 2016 #24
Because defeating Trump by any legal and peaceful means necessary is my raison d'etre. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #35
I do... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #25
how can the op title possibly merit 3 exclamation points? 6chars Jul 2016 #27
I think she should resign Lifelong Protester Jul 2016 #28
Yeah, I'm pretty much a meh. ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #32

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
22. It won't stop the whining. They want Clinton's head on a platter,
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jul 2016

even if it means a Trump presidency. Those who are coyly claiming "concern" here are outright stating this on the PUMA forum they've started.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
5. Article V, Section IV of the Party's Charter tells me all I need to know about what to feel.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jul 2016

She needs to be gone.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. For the sake of the party she has to go.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jul 2016

I know it sounds trite but if I had to tell her I would tell her it's business, nothing personal

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
15. once she loses her seat to Tim Canova, she will land on her feet as a lobbyist
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jul 2016

making a lot more money

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. My uncle lived in Century Village, right smack dab in the middle of her district.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jul 2016

They might as well have created that district for her. Lots of older Jewish voters and Hispanics and African Americans. Clinton won it with 70% of the vote.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
23. Damage control. That's what I see it as.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jul 2016

Lots of people buried in shallow graves outside Las Vegas, NYC, and in New Jersey after being told "it's nothing personal, just business" LOL.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
6. Unfortunately Obama said he has her back and HRC gave a public big thank you yesterday.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jul 2016


He let go of Vann Jones and others for a lot less.

I expect more of Obama, while the big thank you to DWS was what I expected from HRC, DWS's finished role in the convention is positive and surprising.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
21. He's really accomplished, but he has been the best pundit on CNN throughout the primaries.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jul 2016


Yes, I like to see him run for office.

What is his home state or where he is living now I wonder?
 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
36. Los Angeles , Ca is his legal residence, per the California Legal Bar site
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jul 2016
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/200360

Anthony Kapel Jones - #200360

Current Status: Active

This member is active and may practice law in California.

See below for more details.

Profile Information

The following information is from the official records of The State Bar of California.

Bar Number: 200360
Address: Van Jones
PO Box 27517
Los Angeles, CA 90027
Map it Phone Number: Not Available
Fax Number: Not Available
e-mail: Not Available
County: Los Angeles
Undergraduate School: Univ of Tennessee; Martin TN
District: District 2
Sections: None Law School: Yale Law School; New Haven CT
Status History

Effective Date Status Change
Present Active
1/29/2012 Active
9/1/2010 Not Eligible To Practice Law
7/29/2008 Active
7/1/2008 Not Eligible To Practice Law
2/2/1999 Admitted to The State Bar of California
 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
34. He let go of Van Jones<<< that set a bad tone for asshat right wingers to push on Pres. Obama
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jul 2016

I was furious, I ADORE Van Jones. He is a brilliant thinker and a lion for PoC. FUCKing Republican ratscum and conservamedia shite pushed him out.

GRRR. Getting mad now all over again.

so sorry for cursing, it is usually not my style

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
10. I didn't have a clear
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jul 2016

preference during the primaries and I am satisfied with Hillary as the nominee, but I do have feelings about Wasserman Schultz and the unprofessional and incompetent way she has run the DNC. The whole six debates on odd nights was a big issue for me and it has been downhill from there.

She needs to apologize and resign.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. I am in favor of disposing of anything that gets away in the stop of stopping Trump.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jul 2016

I am making a utilitarian calculus. I don't even need to examine her motives.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #13)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
30. I have no problem in seeing her go.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jul 2016

If Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt could whitewash the Katyn Forest Massacre and ignore Soviet war crimes to protect Josef Stalin because defeating Hitler was paramount I can't stand on ceremonial niceties in this election.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #30)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
33. To me Trump is Hitler.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jul 2016

To me Trump is Hitler. If folks were more serious about stopping him sooner six million of my fellow co-religionists wouldn't have been terminated and four continents would not have been thrown into war.


If FDR and Churchill in their quest to defeat Hitler could ignore the Russians killing 22,000 Polish officers in the Katyn Forest and the raping and pillaging by their soldiers in the areas they occupied I can ignore hardball politics.

DWS should go for the greater good. Period.




First Trump came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Muslim.

Then Trump came for the Mexicans, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Mexican.

Then Trump came for the protesters, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a protester.

Then Trump came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Stopping Trumpism, i.e. incipient fascism is a moral imperative. "That you evidently fail to comprehend the all-important and overarching point of this issue is simply astounding to me."

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #33)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
40. Reminds me of when Christine O'Donnell
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jul 2016

Reminds me of when Tea Party heroine, Christine O'Donnell, told Eddy Izzard on Politically Incorrect that if she was hiding Jews from the NAZIS and they asked they where they were she would tell them because she couldn't tell a lie:



Christine O'Donnell on the Holocaust
O'DONNELL: "You always have to talk about the truth... I tell the truth... The lie, whether it be a lie or an exaggeration, is disrespect to whoever you're exaggerating or lying to because it's not respecting reality."
EDDIE IZZARD: "What if someone comes to you in the middle of the second World War and says, 'Do you have any Jewish people in your house?,' and you do have them. That would be a lie. That would be disrespectful to Hitler."
O'DONNELL: "I believe if I were in that situation, God would provide a way to do the right thing righteously."
- Politically Incorrect, 1998


Sounds like a misplaced sense of morality.

In any case there is a contingent that purposely discounts the threat Donald Trump presents. Maybe it is to assuage their conscience because they aren't doing enough to defeat him or maybe they don't care all that much for the targets of his wrath either. The latter is also akin to what happened in Hitler's Germany.




P.S. Vladimir Putin wants Trump to win so he had his minions leak e-mails that will embarrass the Democrats on the eve of their Convention and I am supposed to ignore it. I would literally rather die.





 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. Public perception is strong enough that she needed to go just on that basis.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jul 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
18. I think Tim Canova will be fine should he unseat her.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jul 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
24. this is effing ridiculous. Yes, Trump is bad. He doesn't have a snowballs chance
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jul 2016

in hell of getting elected in the general now, and never had one. Yes, its' sad and scary that he'll probably pull 35 to 38 percent of the vote, but that won't cut it. So people continuing to pretend that we need to pretty much suck it up and look away from inner party corruption because ...armageddon, are doing the future of the democratic party and democracy as a whole, a disservice. Your casual "give them what they want" comment is distressing because you don't seem to want a non-dirty party yourself. How can you not give a shit about how your own party's establishment conducts business?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
35. Because defeating Trump by any legal and peaceful means necessary is my raison d'etre.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jul 2016
How can you not give a shit about how your own party's establishment conducts business?


Because defeating Trump by any legal and peaceful means necessary is my raison d'etre. Every other consideration I can envision is subsidiary:


THE DANGEROUS ACCEPTANCE OF DONALD TRUMP

He’s not Hitler, as his wife recently said? Well, of course he isn’t. But then Hitler wasn’t Hitler—until he was. At each step of the way, the shock was tempered by acceptance. It depended on conservatives pretending he wasn’t so bad, compared with the Communists, while at the same time the militant left decided that their real enemies were the moderate leftists, who were really indistinguishable from the Nazis. The radical progressives decided that there was no difference between the democratic left and the totalitarian right and that an explosion of institutions was exactly the most thrilling thing imaginable.

The American Republic stands threatened by the first overtly anti-democratic leader of a large party in its modern history—an authoritarian with no grasp of history, no impulse control, and no apparent barriers on his will to power. The right thing to do, for everyone who believes in liberal democracy, is to gather around and work to defeat him on Election Day. Instead, we seem to be either engaged in parochial feuding or caught by habits of tribal hatred so ingrained that they have become impossible to escape even at moments of maximum danger...

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump


To put it in idiomatic English Trumpism scares the shit out of me.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
25. I do...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:27 PM
Jul 2016

I think she has been a bad chair, even before this malay. Plus, he stance on payday lenders is just way too much for me to take.

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