2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGreat to see how quickly the DWS issue is being handled
Unlike Trump we have real pros working for us to put an issue to bed quickly.
DWS will not appear on stage at our convention, per MSNBC.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2284001
As much as the Media wants a issue to talk about the removal of DWS from the stage is a great move to defuse a bad situation unlike how Trump handled his wife's speech screw up.
Also Bernie is not taking the bait
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)and I'll admit I was, was Jeff Weaver on AM Joy this morning. COMPLETELY supportive of the Democratic Party, saying we have to move on and support HRC. Coming from the SAME man who called her "evil", that was a very pleasant surprise.
liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)future of the US, and also internationally. Trump, does not play with a full deck.
RonniePudding
(889 posts)Some are using the emails to re-litigate the primaries. They just don't get it.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)msongs
(67,417 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)?@joanwalsh
Wow. Jeff Weaver just praised @hillaryclinton for her "gracious leadership" on @amjoyshow.
https://twitter.com/joanwalsh/status/757230977571848193
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)was really, really surprised. Pleasantly so!
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)I am truly and pleasantly, surprised
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)but his comments are all over the place this morning. Saying one thing to CNN, another to MTP, and yet another to ABC.
awake
(3,226 posts)To help Hillary defeat Trump. Did Bernie say it the same way each time ? Maybe not but the hart of how he answered the questions remained the same.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)The media is obviously committed to making a big story even bigger in order to emphasize the split in the Democratic Party. If you think about the coverage of this campaign overall, it's been solely to increase ratings on the "news" networks. Thus, we have Trump as the GOP nominee. Their next goal is to make Trump POTUS so they'll keep their ratings high as they cover the demise of the country.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Will minimize story
Vinca
(50,278 posts)The story ends when she goes.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)If she had any honor and was a team player, she'd quit today, before the convention.
Otherwise, rather the C&K as running mates, debs will always be part of the story. I hope someone she respects (if she is capable of that) is whispering in her ear. And even more so, I hope she listens.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)booed by rank and file Democrats. Especially since she is up for re-election against a formidable opponent. No, she will be self-imposing a low profile. If Democrats were serious, they would remove her from her position immediately, and conduct a full investigation. It's naive to think that this is the end, there will undoubtedly be more enlightening emails forthcoming. Funny how even the mention of collusion between the DNC and HRC camp was met with calls of sour grapes, no proof, etc....now there's proof and Dems here on this site are frantically trying to minimize it by implying that it's no big deal. Would it have been a big deal to Hillary supporters had the party decided HRC had too much baggage and that O'Malley was their guy, then actively worked to undermine the HRC campaign on his behalf? Who picks our candidates anyway, the voters or just the party?
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)a full review into the matter. The other thing to remember is that this was a Russian hack, and is geared towards helping Trumpenstein. Let's not lose sight of that.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)They are real, the collusion is real, and the harm done to Democracy is real. Keying on who released the info as being more important than the emails themselves is complete and utter nonsense.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)You're not looking at the big picture. Putin wants Trump. Putin has the DNC hacked. Putin then releases the hacked information to Wikileaks, RIGHT before our convention.
It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots and see what the hell is going on.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)is not Democracy. Who picks our candidates, the voters or the party? Apparently the party...and about that I am not happy.
msongs
(67,417 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)"Tampered with" or stolen. The emails already show clear "tampering", will future releases show stealing as well? Who knows, but time will tell. Do you think there will be additional email releases forthcoming from Wikileaks? My gut tells me likely so.
glennward
(989 posts)there is no evidence of anything being done to harm Bernie except for the feeling about the way he was behaving toward BOTH the Democratic Party AND Hillary.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)What if there are more yet to be released?
Oh, and everything you stated beyond the word "except" is demonstrable of collusion.
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)making changes so that use of the DNC chair for personal preference doesn't happen again?
It's great to get rid of a PR problem, but that alone would leave things unchanged and able to happen again
awake
(3,226 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Replacing DWS as convention chair is just a beginning. It's the public show of reaction that will help keep the story out of Tuesday's news.
What's going to take a lot longer is the deep solution that carves that sort of thinking out of those seeking senior roles in the DNC
awake
(3,226 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)She can and should be replaced as the Democratic rep. From her district. Her actions have not helped anyone
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)and running things there making running against her hard.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)It looked like a lot of the worst stuff was coming from that office.
From: MARSHALL@dnc.org
To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org
Date: 2016-05-05 03:31
Subject: No shit
It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.
The message was sent to DNC communications director Luis Miranda, CEO Amy Dacey, and deputy communications director Mark Paustenbach. Dacey responded to the email with a one-word reply: AMEN.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/07/22/email_indicates_dnc_wanted_bernie_sanders_asked_about_god.html
If we want a clean break, there's more housecleaning to do than jettisoning DWS.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)exactly needs to be canned.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)should never have occurred situations, BUT HEY LOOK HOW FAST WE HANDLED IT THIS TIME.