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major debacle

(508 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:04 AM Jul 2016

After listening to Tim Kaine this morning on NPR...

I have absolutely no doubt that he will be the next Vice-President of the USA.

I was heading to a side job this morning (carpentry) and tuned in to one of my local NPR station to catch a few minutes of a rerun of Car Talk (RIP, Tom), but instead found myself listening to Tim Kaine. Of course, I was totally disappointed, but realized that I should hear him out. After less than 5 minutes I understood the difference between the current Republican Party and the current Democratic Party. Trump is a jerk who is trying to claw his way to power by portraying America as a hopeless shit-hole (thank you DU, for allowing us to express our true sentiments) that only HE can save, while Hillary and Tim portray America as a land of hopeful people that only WE can make better.

I have no use for Donald Trump.

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After listening to Tim Kaine this morning on NPR... (Original Post) major debacle Jul 2016 OP
K&R nt The Polack MSgt Jul 2016 #1
Yes. And I have seen places where alleged Democrats have been tearing him down... TreasonousBastard Jul 2016 #2
You mean you CAN have your cake and eat it, too? major debacle Jul 2016 #3
So, his stand, as a good Catholic, means that he'd stop abortions only for men? merrily Jul 2016 #7
I totally get that stance. Even my mom came to that stance. Justice Jul 2016 #9
As stated, I approve the stand, but it's very different when a man states it than when a woman merrily Jul 2016 #10
Joe Biden has exactly the same position. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #8
Mahalo, major! Cha Jul 2016 #4
Aloha to you major debacle Jul 2016 #5
I think I heard the same clip. bvf Jul 2016 #6

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. Yes. And I have seen places where alleged Democrats have been tearing him down...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:26 AM
Jul 2016

for the stupidest reasons.

One was his stand in abortion-- as a good Catholic, he does not believe it is proper. But, as a good citizen, he does not believe he has the right to stop or restrict any woman from having one.

What, then, is the problem?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. So, his stand, as a good Catholic, means that he'd stop abortions only for men?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:32 AM
Jul 2016

I don't think I am misandryist, but I'm good with that.

The position that Kaine articulated is the same one taken by Ted Kennedy, who received communion (from reasonable priests, I assume) until he passed. However, when Kerry ran for President, some Catholic clergy urged refusing Kerry communion.

Candidly, when a man says he believes abortion is wrong, but he would not stop any woman from having one, I'm not quite sure how significant--or how Catholic--that stand really is. I am, however, okay with it.

Anyone who believes anything is wrong because of religion should be free to govern his or her own behavior accordingly, but without trying to control the behavior of anyone else, and most especially should not try to impose his or her religion on anyone else via secular laws.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
10. As stated, I approve the stand, but it's very different when a man states it than when a woman
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:13 AM
Jul 2016

of child-bearing years lives it.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
8. Joe Biden has exactly the same position.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:47 AM
Jul 2016

Yet he gets a pass, maybe because he's not associated with Hillary. You think?

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
6. I think I heard the same clip.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:58 AM
Jul 2016

Was it the one in which he credited some sort of deity for something?




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