2016 Postmortem
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Dead Heat In Ohiohttps://politicalwire.com/2016/07/21/dead-heat-in-ohio/
"SNIP.............
A new Suffolk University poll in Ohio finds Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump tied in Ohio at 44% each with 11% still undecided.
In a four-way scenario, with Green Party nominee Jill Stein and Libertarian Gary Johnson added into the mix, Clinton edges Trump 43% to 39%, with Johnson getting 5%, Stein 1% and 12% undecided.
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helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)Hillary can still win without Ohio. However, if she won then it would make the path pretty much impossible for Trump unless he pulls off win in PA and other places.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)the polls are messed up right now
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underpants
(182,879 posts)Take their show to a swing state. They should have more of a lift than this.
Maeve
(42,288 posts)UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)The demographics play much more to her favor there with a huge Latino population that has gotten even bigger since 2012. Hillary can lose Ohio, PA, and VA and still win. Her mix of states to 270 is much more varied than is Donald Trump's.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)He claims he can do. It's the same old shit,
Reduce taxes while at the same time build roads and bridges and increase the military, maintain law and order while doing nothing about guns, slap duties on foreign goods and expect no blowback, and somehow? Kill all the islamic radicals in the world.
It's all bullshit. He knows it, but he figures the rest of us are dumb enough to buy it.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)that is when we will begin to see the real race. Both VP nominees and both conventions and acceptance speeches.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)From here on out
all perceived "battleground" states will be +5 or less.
This persistence of phony-media-pushing of such polls for a clo-ooooo-se general election won't play out if it turns out to be a landslide election in which Hillary Clinton wins nationally by, say, +10 percentage points. If that actually happens, she'll carry Ohio by +7 at a minimum. And every 55,000 raw votes in Ohio is carriage by one full percentage point.
So, according to this (what the source is), Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have the same number of raw votes.
How amazing!
Let's let July pass. Typically it is the convention monthboth partieswhich are convention bounces which don't often bare out when the Election Day plays out.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)You all sound like the GOP in 2012 with their nonsense. Good god.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)not much of a convention bounce for Trumpenstein, is there?
applegrove
(118,778 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)but I do believe you're right.
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