2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI think Ted Cruz's political career ended tonight.
Trumpheads are never forgiving or forgetting what he did tonight.
I expect there will be a Trumphead primary challenger who will defeat him in Texas come 2018.
I also consider this as being bad because imagine a Senator worse than Cruz being elected in Texas come 2018.
elleng
(131,102 posts)to find and run a primary challenger. I don't have an opinion on the subject, but I do wonder. It's not like the repug 'party,' such as it is, 'belongs' to tramp.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They've primaried their share.
elleng
(131,102 posts)and then what happened? Did we see many teabuggers during the everlasting repug primaries? Did they 'sponsor' any candidates?
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)Tx Repubs are stupid enough to forget by the time he comes up for reelection.
StraightRazor
(260 posts)He won Texas in the Primary and tonight he spoke to the 'other 60%' of Republicans who find Trump repulsive.
I think he's bat-shit crazy, but I give him credit for standing up to so much hatred in that hall and not bending to their will by endorsing Trump. That took a fair amount of balls that no other primary contender seems to have except maybe Kasich - except Cruz stood on that stage and essentially told the amassed crowd to go fuck themselves.
TlalocW
(15,391 posts)If Cruz were the nominee, do you think the things said would be any better than what's been said so far at the RNC?
Cruz is standing up for himself.
TlalocW
StraightRazor
(260 posts)and did not.
That took courage, a lot more than has been on display by his fellow primary mates.
And he's not the nominee, Trump is - so whatever he would have said if he were is supposition, all we know is what he did tonight and it was glorious.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)This guy will never be president. That's a good thing.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)He's an American first and a Republican second. Maybe he realizes the magnitude of catastrophe a Trump presidency would cause.
d_r
(6,907 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)I think it was common knowledge that he was not going to endorse
I mean the radio dude Signorelli on progressive XM was talking today he wouldn't endorse like it was common knowledge
Cha
(297,650 posts)thank you!
okasha
(11,573 posts)Cha
(297,650 posts)too..
Hillary Clinton
✔ ?@HillaryClinton
Vote your conscience. http://hillaryclinton.com/vote
5:26 PM - 20 Jul 2016
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Mahalo~
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Cha
(297,650 posts)I think you meant to post a , right?
oasis
(49,407 posts)after stringing the audience along as if he would. The NY delegation, seated in front, went ballistic.
It was truly something to behold.
Cha
(297,650 posts)to google it!
cruz "going over his allotted time period.. " the guy who rattled on for 20 hours about The Cat in the Hat?.. lol
Anyway, I also got this tweet from Hillary in the article..
Hillary Clinton
✔ ?@HillaryClinton
Vote your conscience. http://hillaryclinton.com/vote
5:26 PM - 20 Jul 2016
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There was a trump tweet there too saying he had read the speech before and let him talk anyway and it was not big deal. lol
Newt Gingrich, appearing after Cruz, argued that Cruz's advocacy for constitutionalism meant that he, implicitly, endorsed Trump -- words he himself did not say.
"So to paraphrase Ted Cruz, if you want to protect the Constitution this fall, there's only one possible way and that's to vote the Trump-Pence ticket."
Richard Black, a delegate from Virginia who chaired Cruz's campaign, said after Cruz's speech that it was "doubtful" he would support him again.
"In the end, each individual has a duty to the nation that transcends the duty to themselves,' Black said. "That's where he failed... He failed the nation."
Rep. Trent Franks of Arizona, who backed Cruz, told CNN he was "disappointed" by Cruz' speech.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/20/politics/ted-cruz-republican-convention-moment/
Ted Cruz Makes a Big Gamble With Convention Speech
http://time.com/4416260/republican-convention-ted-cruz-speech/
Mahalo!
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)Kaisch did not either. Christi and Gingrich did.
Interesting breakdown.
In the unlikely event Trump wins, those who failed to endorse will be persona non grata, and those who did will be hailed as GOP heroes.
The more likely event is that Trump will lose and Clinton will be elected. That leaves a free for all. The non-endorsing republicans will not be weighed down with the idiocy of a Trump presidency, but will get some blame for everything Clinton does.
Trump will probably face election finance charges, and Christi may finally have to face the music on Bridgegate. Gingrich is too old.
I suspect that the republicans will spend years in the wilderness as far as appointments in the federal government go and will decline as a party.
DavidDvorkin
(19,485 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Lyin' Ted just became Lion Ted.
ecstatic
(32,731 posts)If trump loses, rethugs will turn on Trump and forgive Cruz.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)He's going to be all over the news tomorrow and as Trump would say "any news story is a good news story". Trump just got played by Cruz,he must be spitting nails right now. He won't be able to stop himself from slamming and obsessing over Cruz now.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)"Ted Cruz refuses to endorse Trump"
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)...Cruz will be racking up chits by campaign for "real" Conservatives all year long.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Civil War has begun and I am smiling like a fool.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Wait 4 years.
I guarantee he gets the nom.
This moment will be proudly used to show how heroic he was.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Cruz has set himself up perfectly for 2020. Now Cruz really hopes Clinton wins.
Raster
(20,998 posts)jcgoldie
(11,645 posts)When republicans wake up and take their walk of shame in January, Ted Cruz will look like the only guy with the balls to stand up to loser Trump.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)He's betting that Trump loses and that he is someone that is able to go into the lions den and tell the republicans what they are doing wrong. Anyone that supported trump during this cycle is dead in the water. Cruz is supporting the republican party but not trump. His bet is that Trumpism is a flash in the pan phenomenon and his vision of the republicans is what will prevail long term.
I don't know if he is right but Cruz played that narcissistic asshole like a fiddle and I couldn't couldn't be more glad.
Yukari Yakumo
(3,013 posts)This is why you don't put your primary rivals on the stage.
Hint, hint Hillary.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)And Bernie Sanders's endorsement of Hillary Clinton will be solid, unequivocal, and powerful.
LostOne4Ever
(9,290 posts)[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#000076]There is no senator I hate more than Ted Cruz. Watching him earn the hatred of EVERYONE on both the left and right and making sure he never gets within a lightyear of the presidency makes me want to jump with Glee.
Couldn't have happened to a more wretched asshole.
FUCK YOU TED![/font]
JHB
(37,161 posts)Once upon a time, Nixon was all washed up, but kept working out in the political fields just to maintain connections and a profile he could use to his advantage when the political winds shifted.
Cruz is doing a variant of what he did in the primaries: position himself to scoop up Trump's supporters when he goes down in flames and they have to hide the red hats in the same hole dug out behind the shed the shed they put all their Bush-Cheney swag when they put on tricorn hats and said "we're not Republicans, we're independents!"
It may not work, but that's what he's angling for
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I love it when they eat their own!
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)If Trump wins or gets close, Cruz is toast. If Trump loses Mondale / McGovern style, Cruz becomes a prophet. Cruz is banking on a big loss by Trump.