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Donald Trump Jr. appears to have followed in his stepmother Melania Trump's footsteps and gave a prime-time Republican National Convention speech that lifted some language from a magazine article.
The Daily Show pointed out that a few lines from Trump Jr.'s speech on night two of the convention closely matched a passage from a piece written by F. H. Buckley and published in The American Conservative in May.
Read Trump Jr.'s remarks below:
And here is the paragraph from the original American Conservative piece:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-jr-rnc-speech-lifted-language-too
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Deleted mine. Kocked and recced.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)I mean, I know that's technically correct but she's seven years older than him.
glennward
(989 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Possibly the one that ended with tumbrils.
Doodley
(9,094 posts)PatSeg
(47,501 posts)why that was the one part of his speech that jumped out at me. It is like they are trying to fuck up this whole convention.
does anyone on the Trump campaign realize that everyone and their brother can use Google and find things within seconds? WTF
chillfactor
(7,576 posts)about this tomorrow...whomever is helping writing these speeches has no idea what plagiarism is.
Doodley
(9,094 posts)His expensive education FAILED. Spoiled brat who knows nothing about the real world.
glennward
(989 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)Plagiarism is a Trump family value.
(I plagiarized this from another response!)
Laurian
(2,593 posts)Scary!
nsd
(2,406 posts)From Politico:
"I was a speechwriter for this speech. So I'm afraid there's no issue here," Buckley told Business Insider, according to a tweet from the outlet's executive editor.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/rnc-2016-donald-trump-jr-speech-buckley-225860?lo=ap_e1
I don't think this qualifies as stealing, inasmuch as you can't steal from yourself.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)don't these people get it. Can't they come up with an original thought even if Buckley did write the speech? My gosh the stupid runs deep in the Trump boys.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)No scruples whatsoever.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Changed "an elevator to the upper class" to "an elevator to the middle class".
tblue37
(65,407 posts)appeal to the National Review audience, middle-class to appeal to the yahoo GOP base and convention delegates.
scot2313
(1 post)Donald Jr probably steals like his father, plagiarism is stealing other's words. Killing animals for fun is another form of theft. Photos of him holding a bloody knife and the tail of the elephant he killed. Photos with him smiling holding the dead cheetah. and posing with large beautiful animals he killed should be posted and spread to show what kind of man he(and his brother) are. Hope others post and spread these pictures to counter the good press he got tonight. Just google Donald Jr with trophy animals for photos.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Shameless. Just shameless.
The easiest way to say something profound, wouldn't you agree?
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Yet another Trump taking credit for something done by someone else.
Privilege at it's worst.
polynomial
(750 posts)Started viewing free air ABC at the middle speech of John Trump Junior, was dynamic with gusto, or what David Muir anchor host said as very powerful and compelling.
Seems the whole of this ABC news crew along with George Stephanopoulos, and the traditional Republican fan Cooke Roberts, with others needed to always over ride whatever the speakers say because of the lost substance.
It appears John Trump Jr. works closely with his father in business can give the impression Trump Jr. is a product of a succession of bankruptcies which may not be business mistakes but business profits learned for a particular manipulation in a self-serving Congressionally embedded dark cornered legal legislation in business and industry.
Thats scary
this convention really introduced everyone to reason further fear about Trump Jr. and Trumps wife. Cant wait for the one on one interviews with Trumps wife or Jr.
Trump Jr. is skilled in the noble art of insults without substance, a Jack in the cards of super serviceable financial rogues.
Trump as a American security risk is monumental in a false faith according to Arthur Clark about the same time on public TV in an interview saying because of Trump speeches condemning Islam Trump would be the perfect candidate for ISIS conscription in an expanded war.
My view its worst then logic, it is most likely to happen, Trump and the Bush bots want an everlasting profiteering war, grief, loveable torture and a swastikle calculus that controls American behavior. They are mental fascistacle freaks.
As soon as they mentioned Newt Gingrich as a speaker, my thoughts pictured Gingrich as barren dead tree in the middle of dark forest as in R J Tokens Middle Earth surrounded by trolls, beasts and freakozoids that just want to tap the system, and love to hate.
There is no other way to describe Gingrich that is to use insults for the repulsive fascist mental blowhard that he is.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)Stealing someone else's work to get to into the spotlight. The kind of dick headed move his father has perfected.
tblue37
(65,407 posts)recycling, not theft.
Response to RandySF (Original post)
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Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...BUT, really, that writer should have rewritten the speech given what happened last night. No one should be "recycling" anything at this point because they should know each speech is going to be gone over with a fine tooth comb. And if it's a copy of anything "Plagiarism!" is going to be the first word across the Internet.
As for recycling that particular metaphor: it's like the speech writer is presenting his resume rather than trying to write something fitting for Trump, Jr. He's so darn proud of that metaphor! He wants everyone to hear it. But, even if we could believe Trump jr. was concerned with the middle class and public schools, a good speech writer would know that no millennial would use a metaphor about Soviet Russia to make this anti-union point.
As proud and pleased of that metaphor as this writer is, it's totally wrong for Trump Jr. Then again, I suppose they have to play to their audience...all over 50 and reminiscing about the heyday of Reagan if they're applauding that metaphor. I hope to heck the Democrats are taking notes and go young, young, young and fresh. Because RNC speeches are coming across like dioramas at a museum.
Oh, and FYI...I give permission to anyone who wants to copy what I just said. Plagiarize away!
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)King_Klonopin
(1,306 posts)And we all know how republicans feel about the intellectual elite ...