2016 Postmortem
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Last night, the crooked Trumps STOLE from Michelle Obama. "Plagiarize" is a big word for the po-dunk, "seems to have borrowed" is far too nice...Melania Trump, who just earlier told Matt Lauer that she wrote her speech with 'as little help as possible' straight up STOLE from Michelle Obama.
Please do not allow your frenemies to frame this any other way.
The TRUTH has showed up, and we have them flat footed. The broken record technique is *fabulously* successful. Do NOT let them frame this as a gaffe, or any other thing. This was THEFT, plain and simple.
Remember when the Tea Party straight up called themselves tea baggers? When they found out what it meant, they demanded something else, and the Left gave it to them. I say, they made their bed, let them lie in it.
Melania Trump is a thief, and Don the Con wasn't even smart enough to stop it.
And don't even get me started on the rickroll...
liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)A convention marred by controversy on Day 1.
What will Day 2 bring?
glennward
(989 posts)same. Last night should have frighten a lot of people to come to their senses. Now on top of stealing those words from the wife of a black, Kenyan, Muslim they are blaming Hillary for the media reporting on the theft of words.
AllyCat
(16,221 posts)and still be popular. And his supporters ate it up. Of course they are blaming HRC and the media that LOVES the Donald. Of course they are. And the media will apologize in their way and continue their non-stop coverage of the Donald.
Careful how you word your description of PBO and FLOTUS.
glennward
(989 posts)The only ad needed now is the side by side. Not the abbreviated one but entire one. It is much longer than the short one Joe and Mika are showing.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)What does Trump believe in ? Bigtotry, hate and enriching himself. What would he do as president...start wars, steal the nation blind and hate, hate those who are in his target groups.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)The tea party really called themselves the tea baggers?!
XD
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)But wooooooooow
AllyCat
(16,221 posts)and demanded we not call them that. People got real angry with me.
niyad
(113,552 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)I'm relatively new. Lol
niyad
(113,552 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)coco77
(1,327 posts)TEABAGGERS.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)"speechwriter" has already been fired... Proof positive that this was pure plagiarism
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)and his aides are saying she added the words.
We cannot allow this to go away. There are lies everywhere. He can no longer call Hillary crooked given his wife just stole Michelle's speech.
catbyte
(34,447 posts)CBS. On CBS, I actually heard him say that Melania "knew what she was doing..." Knew that she was doing what? Stealing? Lying? What? I predict his ass will be gone by the end of the week. Or Melania's will. MSNBC is reporting that Melania is very disillusioned and pissed off at the Trump spawn for foisting Pence onto Donald.
This is turning into a clusterfuck of epic...no, BIBLICAL proportions.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)He went to bed early (good choice), so he was up bright and early reading the news. This seems to be the lead story
Melania was the only one who appeared to be sane last night, and now it turns out she plagiarized, and from Michelle Obama at that! It would be one thing if she took Nancy Reagan's lines, but from the Obamas!
catbyte
(34,447 posts)and that Democrats couldn't possibly understand those values like working for what you want, blah blah blah when all the time she was stealing Michelle Obama's--A DEMOCRAT'S--words.
The fuckups are stunning. I knew it was going to be bad, but I had no idea it was going to be THIS[/b] bad...
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)compassion back to the White House
I was like, Peace Out, I'm going to bed. But now I am sad I did and missed the call out. Apparently the pundits caught the screw up right away.
It is BAD when you can't even do the most basic spouse speech without a major kerfuffle.
catbyte
(34,447 posts)Wow, just wow.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)She probably studied the speech carefully, even used it as a template. I do that sometimes she I am doing a new project. But how do you actually make the nearly identical speech? And how does the campaign not vet the speech, knowing that she is completely inexperienced at this kind of thing. It boggles the mind....
Be interesting to see what Trump has to say. He does not seem like a kind or forgiving man when it comes to his wives.
Delphinus
(11,840 posts)Bring it back? Where the hell have they been the last eight years?!
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)is campaigning on COMPASSION?
GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)"93% of it was her own words, so who cares about the rest?" Or, something to that effect. So, theft is okay, if it is a small amount, apparently.
catbyte
(34,447 posts)And the sad thing is, Republicans don't seem to care. There's no integrity, no honor, no statesmanship left in the Republican party. If the situation were reversed, Michelle Obama would've been pilloried from now until doomsday. But this never would've happened to the Obama campaign.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Too much basic self-respect to do that or to even need to do that!
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Saviolo
(3,283 posts)But if you're going to have a call to arms, let's look at the big picture, here.
Melania stole a couple of platitudes from Michelle Obama's speech from years back, yes. But also last night a congressman (Steven King R-IA) said on TV that whites have done more for civilization than non-whites. A soap opera actor called the president a muslim. Two different speakers railed against "illegals." The opening prayer referred to Clinton and and Democrats as "the enemy."
The coverage of the speech is sensational, watch-the-birdie kind of stuff for the news cycle, and what we really need to call out is the amazingly overt racism, sexism, homophobia on display last night. That needs to be the real call to arms. Forget the fluff, forget the distractions. The -real things- the people are saying up on that stage are disastrous. They are emboldening racists and fascists throughout the USA, and it's unconscionable that the media is letting them get away with it.
A tweet from someone on my twitter feed today:
https://twitter.com/supership79/status/755384971150430209
Let's not lose sight of the big picture, please.
jcgoldie
(11,645 posts)Plagiarism was perhaps the least disgusting thing that went on on that stage last night.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Saviolo
(3,283 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Saviolo
(3,283 posts)Big Steely Dan fan
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)a brief mental lapse, hence the ironic royalty in my moniker.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Volaris
(10,274 posts)From what I can decipher, yes it was stolen/used/whatever. That's fine tho, because Mrs Trump is a patriotic american and meant it when she said it--unlike The First Lady, who us just a lying, white america hating islamoliberalcommuarglebargle.
So apparently if you really, REALLY mean it, outright theft and lies are just dandy for the law and order crowd.
In short, IOKIYAR.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)as long as you play Lee Greenwood while you're stealing
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)are laughing their asses off right about now!
Me too as their rotten party sinks beneath the waves!
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glennward
(989 posts)despicable for saying this is how Hillary treats women who try to take her down. AND NO ONE IN THE MEDIA...ANY MEDIA CALLED HIM ON IT! I am beyond angry with their hateful, lying rhetoric! No, we should not let this go and I hope the Hillary folks keep ads running in all 50 states. OUTRAGEOUS!
Problem is, they all know it and they don't give a damn.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Just hold their feet to the fire
niyad
(113,552 posts)speech?
weren't there articles about how mellie had been working for weeks with a speech writer (or language coach??)
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)this plagiarism possibly be Hillary's fault??? Manafort needs to be committed!