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LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 06:52 AM Jul 2016

DUers a Call to Arms...

Last night, the crooked Trumps STOLE from Michelle Obama. "Plagiarize" is a big word for the po-dunk, "seems to have borrowed" is far too nice...Melania Trump, who just earlier told Matt Lauer that she wrote her speech with 'as little help as possible' straight up STOLE from Michelle Obama.

Please do not allow your frenemies to frame this any other way.

The TRUTH has showed up, and we have them flat footed. The broken record technique is *fabulously* successful. Do NOT let them frame this as a gaffe, or any other thing. This was THEFT, plain and simple.

Remember when the Tea Party straight up called themselves tea baggers? When they found out what it meant, they demanded something else, and the Left gave it to them. I say, they made their bed, let them lie in it.

Melania Trump is a thief, and Don the Con wasn't even smart enough to stop it.

And don't even get me started on the rickroll...

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DUers a Call to Arms... (Original Post) LaydeeBug Jul 2016 OP
Just need to keep it in the news cycle for the rest of the week liberal N proud Jul 2016 #1
Yes, it re-inforces what we all know that Trump is a scam artist, a thief, liar and his wife is the glennward Jul 2016 #2
They won't come to their senses. Their candidate said he could shoot someone on the street AllyCat Jul 2016 #26
We cannot let this die as an example of what Trump stands for. glennward Jul 2016 #3
They have no dreams or ethics...so they steal other's dreams... Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #4
wait retrowire Jul 2016 #5
yes. and even on FOX news. lol nt LaydeeBug Jul 2016 #7
well where else would they proudly declare stupidity? retrowire Jul 2016 #8
I continued to call them teabaggers for about a year after they found out the meaning AllyCat Jul 2016 #27
you don't remember thesse images? niyad Jul 2016 #33
i joined politics because of Bernie retrowire Jul 2016 #35
oh my, you have missed so much fun. niyad Jul 2016 #36
i'm certain of that. nt retrowire Jul 2016 #42
I continue to call them.. coco77 Jul 2016 #6
me too nt LaydeeBug Jul 2016 #9
They will always be teabaggers to me. nt Lucky Luciano Jul 2016 #13
I don't think Melania stole... But she downright lied when she said she wrote this! The secondwind Jul 2016 #10
Apparently Manafort was assigned to Melania and the speech... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #11
Manafort's aides aren't saying it--Manafort himself threw Melania under the bus on MSNBC & catbyte Jul 2016 #14
First thing my husband mentioned this morning. wildeyed Jul 2016 #12
And the Trump campaign issued a statement blathering about Melania's "values" catbyte Jul 2016 #15
I saw the part where she said she and Donald were going to bring wildeyed Jul 2016 #16
Morning Joe just did a side-by-side comparison of the two speeches, and it was catbyte Jul 2016 #18
Would she be stupid enough to actually plagiarize on purpose? wildeyed Jul 2016 #20
"Compassion"? Delphinus Jul 2016 #22
And the guy who made fun of a disabled journalist wildeyed Jul 2016 #24
Christie was downplaying it on NBC this morning. GoCubsGo Jul 2016 #17
They're all sounding like lying, sloppy, dishonest snake oil salesmen. catbyte Jul 2016 #19
The Obamas and the Clintons are truly smart people, they don't need to steal anyone else's words. Her Sister Jul 2016 #23
That's what the Dumps do. They steal all they can from society. n/t fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #21
Not to minimize this: Saviolo Jul 2016 #25
Good points jcgoldie Jul 2016 #31
exactly niyad Jul 2016 #34
Bravo! Needs to be an OP, imo - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #37
I did, actually! Saviolo Jul 2016 #38
Thank you. Your larger truth needs to be repeated often. - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #43
Also: Saviolo Jul 2016 #44
Hah! I actually intended to create the screen name 'KidCharlemagne,' but suffered KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #45
spot on! nt LaydeeBug Jul 2016 #40
I stopped by Freeperville to see what they thought. Volaris Jul 2016 #28
It's Ok If You're a Republican.... LaydeeBug Jul 2016 #48
"My wife plagarizes so good from others! She is a big, big winner!" randome Jul 2016 #29
I bet all the republicans that are staying away from Trump's circus workinclasszero Jul 2016 #30
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #32
We should not forgive them, especially Manaforte, for trying to hang this on Hillary. He was glennward Jul 2016 #39
That's unreal. LaydeeBug Jul 2016 #41
how in the nine circles of hell was this HIllary's fault? did she make mellie steal michelle's niyad Jul 2016 #46
I'm no big fan of her, but how in the world could KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #47

liberal N proud

(60,344 posts)
1. Just need to keep it in the news cycle for the rest of the week
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 06:59 AM
Jul 2016

A convention marred by controversy on Day 1.

What will Day 2 bring?

 

glennward

(989 posts)
2. Yes, it re-inforces what we all know that Trump is a scam artist, a thief, liar and his wife is the
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 07:02 AM
Jul 2016

same. Last night should have frighten a lot of people to come to their senses. Now on top of stealing those words from the wife of a black, Kenyan, Muslim they are blaming Hillary for the media reporting on the theft of words.

AllyCat

(16,221 posts)
26. They won't come to their senses. Their candidate said he could shoot someone on the street
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:28 AM
Jul 2016

and still be popular. And his supporters ate it up. Of course they are blaming HRC and the media that LOVES the Donald. Of course they are. And the media will apologize in their way and continue their non-stop coverage of the Donald.

Careful how you word your description of PBO and FLOTUS.

 

glennward

(989 posts)
3. We cannot let this die as an example of what Trump stands for.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 07:05 AM
Jul 2016

The only ad needed now is the side by side. Not the abbreviated one but entire one. It is much longer than the short one Joe and Mika are showing.

Demsrule86

(68,667 posts)
4. They have no dreams or ethics...so they steal other's dreams...
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 07:10 AM
Jul 2016

What does Trump believe in ? Bigtotry, hate and enriching himself. What would he do as president...start wars, steal the nation blind and hate, hate those who are in his target groups.

AllyCat

(16,221 posts)
27. I continued to call them teabaggers for about a year after they found out the meaning
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jul 2016

and demanded we not call them that. People got real angry with me.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
10. I don't think Melania stole... But she downright lied when she said she wrote this! The
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:07 AM
Jul 2016

"speechwriter" has already been fired... Proof positive that this was pure plagiarism

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
11. Apparently Manafort was assigned to Melania and the speech...
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:09 AM
Jul 2016

and his aides are saying she added the words.

We cannot allow this to go away. There are lies everywhere. He can no longer call Hillary crooked given his wife just stole Michelle's speech.

catbyte

(34,447 posts)
14. Manafort's aides aren't saying it--Manafort himself threw Melania under the bus on MSNBC &
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:36 AM
Jul 2016

CBS. On CBS, I actually heard him say that Melania "knew what she was doing..." Knew that she was doing what? Stealing? Lying? What? I predict his ass will be gone by the end of the week. Or Melania's will. MSNBC is reporting that Melania is very disillusioned and pissed off at the Trump spawn for foisting Pence onto Donald.

This is turning into a clusterfuck of epic...no, BIBLICAL proportions.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
12. First thing my husband mentioned this morning.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:27 AM
Jul 2016

He went to bed early (good choice), so he was up bright and early reading the news. This seems to be the lead story

Melania was the only one who appeared to be sane last night, and now it turns out she plagiarized, and from Michelle Obama at that! It would be one thing if she took Nancy Reagan's lines, but from the Obamas!

catbyte

(34,447 posts)
15. And the Trump campaign issued a statement blathering about Melania's "values"
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:40 AM
Jul 2016

and that Democrats couldn't possibly understand those values like working for what you want, blah blah blah when all the time she was stealing Michelle Obama's--A DEMOCRAT'S--words.


The fuckups are stunning. I knew it was going to be bad, but I had no idea it was going to be THIS[/b] bad...

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
16. I saw the part where she said she and Donald were going to bring
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:45 AM
Jul 2016

compassion back to the White House

I was like, Peace Out, I'm going to bed. But now I am sad I did and missed the call out. Apparently the pundits caught the screw up right away.

It is BAD when you can't even do the most basic spouse speech without a major kerfuffle.

catbyte

(34,447 posts)
18. Morning Joe just did a side-by-side comparison of the two speeches, and it was
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:55 AM
Jul 2016
verbatim. It was stunning, actually. And Manafort is trying to pshaw it away by spewing stupidities like "those are common words" yadda yadda yadda. He he really messed up, however, when, on CBS This Morning, he put the blame squarely on Melania--"She knew what she was doing." Knew just what, exactly, Manafort? If Trump has to choose between Melania or Manafort, I wonder which one he'll choose?

Wow, just wow.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
20. Would she be stupid enough to actually plagiarize on purpose?
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:01 AM
Jul 2016

She probably studied the speech carefully, even used it as a template. I do that sometimes she I am doing a new project. But how do you actually make the nearly identical speech? And how does the campaign not vet the speech, knowing that she is completely inexperienced at this kind of thing. It boggles the mind....

Be interesting to see what Trump has to say. He does not seem like a kind or forgiving man when it comes to his wives.

GoCubsGo

(32,088 posts)
17. Christie was downplaying it on NBC this morning.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:53 AM
Jul 2016

"93% of it was her own words, so who cares about the rest?" Or, something to that effect. So, theft is okay, if it is a small amount, apparently.

catbyte

(34,447 posts)
19. They're all sounding like lying, sloppy, dishonest snake oil salesmen.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jul 2016

And the sad thing is, Republicans don't seem to care. There's no integrity, no honor, no statesmanship left in the Republican party. If the situation were reversed, Michelle Obama would've been pilloried from now until doomsday. But this never would've happened to the Obama campaign.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
23. The Obamas and the Clintons are truly smart people, they don't need to steal anyone else's words.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:16 AM
Jul 2016

Too much basic self-respect to do that or to even need to do that!

Saviolo

(3,283 posts)
25. Not to minimize this:
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:26 AM
Jul 2016

But if you're going to have a call to arms, let's look at the big picture, here.

Melania stole a couple of platitudes from Michelle Obama's speech from years back, yes. But also last night a congressman (Steven King R-IA) said on TV that whites have done more for civilization than non-whites. A soap opera actor called the president a muslim. Two different speakers railed against "illegals." The opening prayer referred to Clinton and and Democrats as "the enemy."

The coverage of the speech is sensational, watch-the-birdie kind of stuff for the news cycle, and what we really need to call out is the amazingly overt racism, sexism, homophobia on display last night. That needs to be the real call to arms. Forget the fluff, forget the distractions. The -real things- the people are saying up on that stage are disastrous. They are emboldening racists and fascists throughout the USA, and it's unconscionable that the media is letting them get away with it.

A tweet from someone on my twitter feed today:

https://twitter.com/supership79/status/755384971150430209

Let's not lose sight of the big picture, please.

jcgoldie

(11,645 posts)
31. Good points
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jul 2016

Plagiarism was perhaps the least disgusting thing that went on on that stage last night.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
45. Hah! I actually intended to create the screen name 'KidCharlemagne,' but suffered
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jul 2016

a brief mental lapse, hence the ironic royalty in my moniker.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
28. I stopped by Freeperville to see what they thought.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jul 2016

From what I can decipher, yes it was stolen/used/whatever. That's fine tho, because Mrs Trump is a patriotic american and meant it when she said it--unlike The First Lady, who us just a lying, white america hating islamoliberalcommuarglebargle.

So apparently if you really, REALLY mean it, outright theft and lies are just dandy for the law and order crowd.

In short, IOKIYAR.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. "My wife plagarizes so good from others! She is a big, big winner!"
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:33 AM
Jul 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
30. I bet all the republicans that are staying away from Trump's circus
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:35 AM
Jul 2016

are laughing their asses off right about now!

Me too as their rotten party sinks beneath the waves!

Response to LaydeeBug (Original post)

 

glennward

(989 posts)
39. We should not forgive them, especially Manaforte, for trying to hang this on Hillary. He was
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jul 2016

despicable for saying this is how Hillary treats women who try to take her down. AND NO ONE IN THE MEDIA...ANY MEDIA CALLED HIM ON IT! I am beyond angry with their hateful, lying rhetoric! No, we should not let this go and I hope the Hillary folks keep ads running in all 50 states. OUTRAGEOUS!

Problem is, they all know it and they don't give a damn.

niyad

(113,552 posts)
46. how in the nine circles of hell was this HIllary's fault? did she make mellie steal michelle's
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jul 2016

speech?

weren't there articles about how mellie had been working for weeks with a speech writer (or language coach??)

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
47. I'm no big fan of her, but how in the world could
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jul 2016

this plagiarism possibly be Hillary's fault??? Manafort needs to be committed!

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