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Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:24 AM Jul 2016

Maintain focus. More important: Trump Wall or copy-paste? Don't let media lose perspective.

Melania's speech? Boiler-plate platitudes millions of politicians have said.

Let this die.

Avoid distractions like this that take the focus off Trump crap like the Trump University scam.

Keep the focus on his Database to track muslims, his boondoggle wall, his racist rants against Mexicans.

[font size="+1"]Don't let the media let Trump's war on women slide off the radar. This or Steve King's White Supremacist rant?[/font]

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Maintain focus. More important: Trump Wall or copy-paste? Don't let media lose perspective. (Original Post) Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 OP
I think we're quite capable of thinking about and discussing more than one thing at a time. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #1
I agree. sarae Jul 2016 #3
We are capable. Media is not. Media has limited focus. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #6
NO. DO NOT let this go. Maven Jul 2016 #2
Sure fight on every front if every voter has unlimited attention span. They do not. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #8
His racist views are out there already and will have many more opportunities to come out Maven Jul 2016 #11
You forget the fundamental mechanism of advertising: REPETITION Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #15
I'm grabbing onto it like a PITBULL MohRokTah Jul 2016 #4
No. Do not let this go. Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #5
Romney's 47% tape was fundamental regarding POLICY attitudes. Melania is not fundamental. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #7
Trust me. Politics is all about the small stuff. Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #10
All your examples are CANDIDATES, not wives. And your examples went to ISSUES. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #12
And this will be used to target how Trump is a fraud. Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #14
The bigger issue now is how will he handle it? SticksnStones Jul 2016 #16
The copypasta is more important woolldog Jul 2016 #9
You are right, but this is the moment's news and it is another negative for this convention. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #13
I was wrong. The speech issue went viral and then some. Then it grew legs. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #17

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
6. We are capable. Media is not. Media has limited focus.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jul 2016

Talk about it all you want here.

No point in trying to make this 'plagiarism' viral on Twitter.

Make Pence's 180 degree flip-flop on immigration viral. Any of a hundred more important real issues should be viral over this.

What counts more: Trump blaming Black Lives Matter or Melania's paragraph?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
8. Sure fight on every front if every voter has unlimited attention span. They do not.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:33 AM
Jul 2016

What do you want the swing voters to remember in the voting booth in November? Wife's copy-paste or Trump's racist immigration problems?

Maven

(10,533 posts)
11. His racist views are out there already and will have many more opportunities to come out
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jul 2016

in subsequent news cycles, during the debates, etc.

The whole convention so far has been laced with hate and ugly nationalism, and anyone can see that. It doesn't mean we don't seize on this story, especially when they have been attacking our candidate as dishonest and untrustworthy

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
15. You forget the fundamental mechanism of advertising: REPETITION
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:45 AM
Jul 2016

The reason the Republicans hammer "emails" and Trump repeats "crooked" is to make it stick.

Time spent on arguing fine points of similarity of canned platitudes takes voters' attentions away from the issues that Democrats need to make stick in the minds of voters.

Need to constantly remind low information people of the racism, hate and ugly nationalism.

Democrats need to repeat Democratic issues, not spouse's minutiae.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
5. No. Do not let this go.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jul 2016

Some dismissed Romney's 47% tape as nothing but irrelevant because it wasn't direct policy. We should focus on his stance on the issues, they said. That tape was DEVASTATING. Often, it's the small stuff that brings down a candidate.

Just ask Howard Dean and John Kerry.

KEEP AT IT.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
7. Romney's 47% tape was fundamental regarding POLICY attitudes. Melania is not fundamental.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:31 AM
Jul 2016

The Kochs hated the 47% tape issue.

The Kochs are going to love this distraction away from Trump's idiotic economic policies.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
10. Trust me. Politics is all about the small stuff.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:34 AM
Jul 2016

Kerry windsurfing had NOTHING to do with policy or issues and the imagery fucked him over in 2004 - defining him as elitist and tying perfectly in with Bush's attack on him being a flip-flopper. Howard Dean's scream should not have disqualified him - but it did. Gore's sighing was irrelevant, really, to anything substantive and yet it killed him. Bush at the checkout counter in '92, Dukakis in the tank in '88, Musky wiping away a tear in '72 - all the small, petty shit did those campaigns in.

That's just how American politics works, my friend. KEEP AT THIS.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
12. All your examples are CANDIDATES, not wives. And your examples went to ISSUES.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:40 AM
Jul 2016

Bush at the checkout in 92 showed that he was completely out of touch with real people. Copy-paste not so much.

Just like the candidate Kerry's supposed elitism.

Dukakis in tank was used to target his policies on the military.

Musky's tear was used to attack supposed weakness of the candidate, just like Boehner's tears.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
14. And this will be used to target how Trump is a fraud.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:44 AM
Jul 2016

Sorry, but this is a big deal. The one thing we can do is steal any positive momentum out of the RNC Convention by having a complete cycle about Donald's fuck up. It just furthers the notion that A) Trump's campaign is a joke and B) it's a fraud.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
16. The bigger issue now is how will he handle it?
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:47 AM
Jul 2016

How will Trump - the man who wants to lead this country through what he calls crisis times - how will he navigate through this event.

That is entirely relevant to this competition.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
13. You are right, but this is the moment's news and it is another negative for this convention.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jul 2016

It will be old news tomorrow.

What I found more startling is that God created America and God sent Trump. My salmon fishing hip waders weren't enough today, bullshit soooo deep. Are American voters really that stupid?

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