2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Republican Convention Is Falling Apart.
The GOP has reaped the harvest of its decades-long folly, and 2016 turns out to be a very, very poor crop.
Party leaders and elected Republicans are shunning the convention publicly, and Der Drumpf is having trouble even finding speakers for his convention. And yet, he has those delegates chosen by the voters in the 50 states.
An attempt to put a question about "unbinding" delegates failed to get enough votes in the rules committee to even cause a floor vote. So, The Donald is going to be the nominee for the Geezers Only Party this year, regardless of the party's dislike for the orange-haired orangutan.
Eat it, Republicans! You grew it. Now eat it. You let the teabaggers force the party to the fundamentalist far right. Now, you have your reward. Your nominee will be a lying, fraudulent, bankruptcy filing moron. He may not even make it to the election, actually. He could easily drop out before November in some fit of pique and sociopathic rage.
Good luck, GOP. You plowed your fields. You planted the seeds. Now, choke on your crop. Enjoy your meal.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Those millions of people in this country that support Trump will only ridicule the people that skip the convention. As long as Trump keeps saying the things he does, they will vote for him.
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)The RNC and Trump touted he was speaking
then Tebow comes out and says its all rumor.
In other words, he's running away as fast as
he can. What a disaster. They'll be lucky to
even announce a VP.
MineralMan
(146,315 posts)not to go, I'm sure.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Sexually repressed has-been goes to live with mommy & daddy in a warehouse full of powerless, vulnerable children?
vanlassie
(5,670 posts)bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)The Republican Party shows us what will happen to a party that cares more about grandstanding and making ideological speeches than it does about governing.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)The Republicans have almost always been grandstanders and have failed to govern.
Think of the ridiculous number of votes in the House to repeal the ACA. Anyone with a brain would have known that they would never have the votes in the Senate to pass such a bill and that President Obama would never sign it. What a waste of time and money.
Then we look at their endless harping about the Benghazi attacks. Nine investigations have found no evidence of wrong doing and their Republican "investigators" have even admitted as much. Yet, the RNC will waste an entire evening- 25%!- of their convention regurgitating this nothing-burger.
It eludes me how voters can keep sending these clowns to Washington.
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)Are you implying that we will never find that email implicating Hillary and Obama in Benghazi? jk
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)"Never put it in writing." (snark)
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)that totally reveals to the whole world one's evil conspiracy and its history, accomplices, etc.
padfun
(1,786 posts)They were nice enough to spend 7 million to exonerate Hillary. Now that was nice of them.
JustAnotherGen
(31,825 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Andy Smarick ?@smarick Jun 4
IF I HAD A NICKLE EVERY TIME A GOP OFFICIAL CALLED TRUMP'S BEHAVIOR "UNACCEPTABLE" BUT ACCEPTED HIM AS NOMINEE I COULD START A FAKE COLLEGE
longship
(40,416 posts)Nom nom nom!
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)The RNC is begging casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson for $6,000,000 to nominate casino billionaire tRump who is adored by evangelicals. Evangelicals are supposed to loathe, abhor, and despise gambling and casinos.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Pluvious
(4,310 posts)...follow the words of Jesus, you know, like "love thy neighbor as thyself," and "blessed are the meek," "do unto others as you'd have them do unto you," etc
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)I always thought that was the best one. Republicans haven't read that far, I guess. For all their protestations of loving Jesus, they quote nothing but the Old Testament. I guess they get tired of reading and never make it to the love and mercy bits.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Don't know about King
sheshe2
(83,772 posts)Brady supports Trump? Good thing I don't care for sports that much, yet support our home teams. Sadly Tommy boy loves Trump. Ick, Curt Shilling of the Red socks loved Bush and RMoney. Ick.
sheshe2
(83,772 posts)Bon Appetit!
Punx
(446 posts)Is that they have nothing else to offer other than this folly. They can't really talk about their real goals, though they certainly have gotten bolder recently. While I have issues with parts of the Democratic Party, there are plenty of positives here.
Now the GOP is stuck between a "rock and a hard place". To say I have no sympathy would be a gross understatement.
Spazito
(50,345 posts)they know Trump is an absolute disaster but can't do anything about it because their base would completely rebel. They are in a lose/lose situation and I couldn't be happier.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)It's going to be a big show and the media will gobble up all of the garbage. They want you to think it will be a mess.
lark
(23,102 posts)This is a big set-up, so then they can say how the Drumpfenfurher exceeded everyone's expectations, what a fabulous job he did, starry eyed gush.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,427 posts)call me cynical or paranoid or whatever but I think most of us (sane type Democrats) really underestimate the level of racism and bigotry that exists here and how many of our fellow countrymen were waiting for someone like the orange buffoon...
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I see and interact with people every single day who think Trump is the answer to everything. We cannot take the Republican's self-created "mess" lightly. We still need to get out every single solitary vote that we can for Hillary.
lark
(23,102 posts)There's always a big bounce for the nominee during and after the convention - ALWAYS. The media is downplaying expectations on purpose, it's a set-up. You are also right that racism is still very alive and well in this country and Drumpf has the market cornered on that demographic. That's why GOTV efforts are so critical. Those hating racists will be very motivated to vote. We have to be more motivated than they are or their hate will rule the day and our country's ideals will be totally destroyed.
Darb
(2,807 posts)Those rambling dumbasses making speeches and running on at the mouth about shit only baggers care about will be a snooze.
The Dem convention will be the lollapalooza of conventions.
okasha
(11,573 posts)1.True Believers ; and
2. Lookey-loos enjoying the train wreck.
The latter are likely to outnumber the former.
getagrip_already
(14,752 posts)people don't care. they will see the headlines and sound bites on fox and be happy.
it doesn't mean he will win, or won't, it just means there will be no harm done by a screwed up convention.
The reds usually draw at least 48%. And that is close in any election once you get into state by syate races.
Don't assume anything. gotv. hit them every chance we can at every level.
What I'm worried most about are the asshats who just want to break something, to knock the table over, or whatever adjectives you want to use. They want chaos, because they think they can control trump for four years and then rebuild everything perfectly.
What they are going to get is 4 years of someone far worse than cheney having complete and invisible control. Plus a supreme court well to the right of scalia and thomas.
Cary
(11,746 posts)I think Trump will reveal what his investigators found with respect to President Obama's birth certificate, and Geraldo Rivera will reveal the new findings from Al Capone's vault, and we will learn who really shot JFK, and the truth about moon landings, ...
It's going to be terrific. Really. He has the best convention planners. He knows them all you know.
Hekate
(90,692 posts)RKP5637
(67,108 posts)just disband. One looks at Dwight Eisenhower, and now this spectacle. The GOP has imploded. They really need to hang it up.
The GOP is now the pure party of hatred and ever growing hostilities. In essence, they are against humans, in fact all living species and earth. So much ugliness and hatred spews from the GOP. In fact, that's all the GOP talks about ... persecution and discrimination against one or another, and forcing their religion on people.
dembotoz
(16,806 posts)exciting tv
the hrc coronation in contrast will be a total snooze
trump reality tv convention will produce a nice boost in the polls
hrc conventional convention folks will not be watching....not so much
lark
(23,102 posts)Clinton's (Bill) convention was awesome, I expect the same from Hillary.
On a side note, can't wait to see who she will choose as VP.
Sugarcoated
(7,724 posts)and full of A team speakers. I think you just don't like Hillary....
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)Many of us will tune in to hear Bernie, Michelle and Obama. I will tune in to hear Hillary as well.
As for Trump, yes he seems to understand the free media, but he is also being advised and apparently pushed in other directions right now. They can't have 4 nights of Trump and that's the only one his minions really want to hear. Doubt that Christie and Gingrich and God-forbid Carlson will actually bring on the ratings.
n2play
(10 posts)Maeve
(42,282 posts)jalan48
(13,867 posts)n2play
(10 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)eom
jalan48
(13,867 posts)lark
(23,102 posts)It's got to the one or the other. Comey is a total piece of Repug horse shit.
Really should be called for what it was universally.
DemoTex
(25,397 posts)Hosea 8 : 7
AwakeAtLast
(14,130 posts)Pence won't be my Governor anymore!!!
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)when even Sarah Palin refuses to attend.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)The result would be something other than a winner.
I know, I know, Cleveland finally got a championship, but look at the history here. Missed chances at championship after championship, a strike the year the MLB All Star Game was here, A river that burns.
What else did they expect when they have been living on such a negative platform for so long?
ismnotwasm
(41,984 posts)It's pitiful-but they did it too themselves
Botany
(70,508 posts)get the red out
(13,466 posts)Orangutans are intelligent creatures, unlike Trump.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)schadenfreude I've been experiencing watching the spectacle.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)The police were starting to shut down roads ...everything was bumper to bumper. I went up the back way because the highways were congested. I have season tickets to the Broadway series at playhouse square, and we were seeing Steel Magnolia's. Hubs didn't want to go so I took my daughter. There will be very tight security. Ohio has open carry for long guns and handguns thanks to Kasich the terrible and the tea party legislature. The cops looked resigned...very nice and not looking forward to the zoo that will be the GOP convention.