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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:02 PM Jul 2016

Update 2: Dump Trump Polling begins of Romney v Clinton

Last edited Mon Jul 11, 2016, 04:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Preibus named a Romney gal, Enid Mickelsen, from Utah, as RNC Rules Committee Chair; and she instantly named another Mitt pal, from Massachusetts as her co-Chair.

New word is, come the RNC Rules Committee meeting, in Colorado, thus coming week…that there already are enough Committee member votes (28) to unbind delegates, for the Dump Trump movement to change the process and free up the state delegates to vote their conscience

So that Mitt Romney may be "drafted" to run.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7337/exclusive-dump-trump-rnc-delegate-leader-we-have-daily-wire#.V4LL98OdGM8.twitter
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UPDATE No 2
Pollings begin
Hillary v Romney
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According to a news source DU claims is not credible ( though Bill Singletary has been 'Spot On' about Mitt Romney issues)....the following is transpiring

".... the payoff comes next week in Cleveland when Romney walks away with the nomination.”

Source close to the situation say

Pollsters are already hard at work conducting polling that pits Mitt Romney against Democratic presumptive nominee, Hillary Clinton, in anticipation of a Romney-Clinton general election contest, according to one source close to the situation. The polling was spurred, say sources, by credible reports that the GOP Rules Committee has changed the nominating rules to open the door for Mitt Romney to challenge GOP presumptive nominee Donald Trump at next week’s Republican National Convention in Cleveland.


http://www.the-newshub.com/us-politics/mitt-romney-nominee-talk-spurs-polls-pitting-him-against-hillary-clinton

Have your popcorn ready…folks


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Update 2: Dump Trump Polling begins of Romney v Clinton (Original Post) laserhaas Jul 2016 OP
A rules committee versus millions of voters... BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #1
We'd better bring lots of popcorn.... CherokeeDem Jul 2016 #3
The test run was Colorado when they withheld the results of the caucus NWCorona Jul 2016 #9
Its a done deal..Trump gets to bow out and cry foul laserhaas Jul 2016 #14
Not gonna happen. Would be MAJOR civil war in the party. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #20
Trump won't care. He'll blame the party Establishment... Orsino Jul 2016 #44
He's getting thousands at his rallies. His base is still there. Unfortunately. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #16
So he is still drawing thousands. I haven't seen anything for a few weeks NWCorona Jul 2016 #23
No, I believe you are correct. My guess is he's planning out the convention details. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #25
That amount was the headline PJMcK Jul 2016 #27
Yes. I think $51,000,000 was the headline. $26 mil for his campaign, $25 for GOP. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #32
Thanks for the distinction PJMcK Jul 2016 #34
Agreed! We will know on Friday I believe. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #37
The use of the word "delgates" instead of "members of the rules committee" BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #2
The article is confusing..having "delegate" in the titke laserhaas Jul 2016 #4
Unbinding the delegates alone is nowhere near enough. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #5
Word is...the rules change is already done laserhaas Jul 2016 #6
Our differences aside. Have you seen or better yet heard Trump? NWCorona Jul 2016 #12
Did you notice he met with Preibus n Cruz laserhaas Jul 2016 #15
Just that Trump invited Cruz to speak at the convention and that Cruz accepted. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #18
No I didn't. When did that happen? NWCorona Jul 2016 #19
A few days ago. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #22
That cut off at just the right time for dramatic effect lol! NWCorona Jul 2016 #24
Ain't that the truth! You're welcome. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #26
The Republican Convention will be a show for the ages PJMcK Jul 2016 #29
Maybe that's how they will get Trump to win? Txbluedog Jul 2016 #36
Great theory! PJMcK Jul 2016 #38
This is closer to the truth than the article in the OP, IMO. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #21
This would be good for us. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #7
I really hope they succeed. The split in that party will be epic MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #8
This is outrageous!... SidDithers Jul 2016 #10
Please let this happen. joshcryer Jul 2016 #11
I'm thinking something is definitely gonna up. NWCorona Jul 2016 #13
Civil War in the Republican Party. Bwahahahahaha... RBInMaine Jul 2016 #17
do the magic underwear have another run in them? rurallib Jul 2016 #28
"Is that a loose thread... PJMcK Jul 2016 #30
! rurallib Jul 2016 #31
Ha Ha laserhaas Jul 2016 #33
rMoney / Ryan flamingdem Jul 2016 #35
Mi% needs Ryan in the House to get his 2 bites laserhaas Jul 2016 #41
Mitt may be working for it behind the scenes but I don't see him getting it. GOP pols are so TeamPooka Jul 2016 #39
Wow. Fulfillment of Mormon prophecy? HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #40
I don't think Romney will run again, but I am not Exilednight Jul 2016 #42
So...you think....it is just a coincidence laserhaas Jul 2016 #43
I don't think it's coincidence as much as wishful thinking. Exilednight Jul 2016 #45
Its not wishful thinking..Im only reporting facts laserhaas Jul 2016 #46
He will never get the delegates for the GOP nomination. Exilednight Jul 2016 #47
Your analogy gives too much credit to Mitt, on how hard laserhaas Jul 2016 #49
Are ee in the Twilight Zone? Magic underware flair? laserhaas Jul 2016 #48

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
9. The test run was Colorado when they withheld the results of the caucus
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jul 2016

And they laid down and didn't do nothing! So why wouldn't the RNC think they could weather a national storm. Another thing I've noticed is his base has evaporated. Where did they go? I'm not seeing the big crowds anymore so I'm thinking a coup might be possible and isdefinitely in the works.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
14. Its a done deal..Trump gets to bow out and cry foul
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jul 2016

Insteadvog getting his arse handed to him

Come the general election

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
44. Trump won't care. He'll blame the party Establishment...
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jul 2016

...and retreat back into the bubble, where everything is done for him.

I still think he'll quit, but my preciction is about a year overdue.

 

BlueNoMatterWho

(880 posts)
16. He's getting thousands at his rallies. His base is still there. Unfortunately.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jul 2016

Hell they raised $26,000,000 for him. From 400,000 donors last month.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
23. So he is still drawing thousands. I haven't seen anything for a few weeks
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jul 2016

But I haven't been checking that hard either.

I did hear about his fundraising boost and I'm not a fan.

I'm not trying to give the impression that I think he's done. It's just that he's made some odd moves lately and he doesn't seem as hot as he once was. That could just be my take tho.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
27. That amount was the headline
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jul 2016

But we won't know for sure until the June FEC report is released in mid-July, I think. Then we'll have an accurate figure for Donald Trump's campaign and its fund raising.

A second element that could be interesting has to do with the roughly $50 million that Mr. Trump lent his campaign. He made a big noise recently that he was forgiving the loans but there's no official confirmation that he's done so. If he doesn't file the necessary paperwork, it'll indicate that he wants to be repaid meaning that his "self-funded" campaign was but another scam.

 

BlueNoMatterWho

(880 posts)
32. Yes. I think $51,000,000 was the headline. $26 mil for his campaign, $25 for GOP.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jul 2016

I think he threw in another $4 million himself. For a total of $55 million in June. Like you said, we will find out for sure I believe on the 15th.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
34. Thanks for the distinction
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jul 2016

Your breakdown sounds about right, BlueNoMatterWho.

Won't it be fun when we discover that he didn't raise that much money and he hasn't actually forgiven the debts? His scams are coming to a head and there are very few New Yorkers, not to mention Democratic voters, who can't wait to see The Donald get his comeuppance.

 

BlueNoMatterWho

(880 posts)
2. The use of the word "delgates" instead of "members of the rules committee"
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jul 2016

Are they one in the same? My understanding is that there needs to be 28 members of the rules committee to put it up to a vote in order for delegates to vote for someone other than who they are bound to by voting results.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
4. The article is confusing..having "delegate" in the titke
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jul 2016

And mentions delegate in the details

But I've reworded it...to be less confusing

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
5. Unbinding the delegates alone is nowhere near enough.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jul 2016

They also have to change the rules so that somebody who did not win a single state could be nominated.

Then they will have to convince ~600 of ~900 delegates who MAY be on the fence to jump over to their candidate.

In the world of longshots, you have a much better chance picking four numbers in numbers racket.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
12. Our differences aside. Have you seen or better yet heard Trump?
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jul 2016

I'm being somewhat facetious obviously but this guy is losing it big time! He's rambling more so than usual.
All this just seems odd to me and we should be prepared for anything.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
24. That cut off at just the right time for dramatic effect lol!
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jul 2016

This will probably be the only Republican convention I'll ever watch.

Thanks!

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
29. The Republican Convention will be a show for the ages
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jul 2016

I can't wait to watch it on C-Span because it will be an incredible expression of craziness! Just imagine the speeches that Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Chris Christie, Sarah Pain et al. will give! As I've mentioned before, don't play any drinking games or you'll be plastered within 20 minutes!

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
36. Maybe that's how they will get Trump to win?
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:11 PM
Jul 2016

Have massive numbers of democrats die of laughter/alcohol poisoning watching the republican convention? 😂😂😂😫

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
38. Great theory!
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jul 2016

Your point is one of the reasons I'm suggesting we skip the traditional drinking games!

Have a good upcoming week, Txbluedog.

 

BlueNoMatterWho

(880 posts)
7. This would be good for us.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jul 2016

Any person given the nomination other than the person who won it would lose by a much larger margin than Trump ever would have.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
8. I really hope they succeed. The split in that party will be epic
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:00 PM
Jul 2016

and it may never be a legitimate political party again. I for one have never taken the loyal opposition stand, if it's evil as a whole it needs to be destroyed.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
13. I'm thinking something is definitely gonna up.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

Breaking the will of the voters has already happened in Colorado without anything happening really at all so there's that.

Trump's crazy ass just seems even more off to me than usual.


TeamPooka

(24,227 posts)
39. Mitt may be working for it behind the scenes but I don't see him getting it. GOP pols are so
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jul 2016

afraid of their base they won't make a move on Trump.
The Trump voters are the angriest Republicans ever so the GOP elected set are shaking in their boots.
They will let him do whatever he wants and deal with it.
GOP politicians know how to ride a loser like Trump (McCain, Romney, Dole) and still protect their own ass along the way.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
40. Wow. Fulfillment of Mormon prophecy?
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jul 2016

The nation (well at least the R's party) in crisis, picks a Mormon to save it!

Who'd a guessed a year ago that that was up for a re-run?

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
43. So...you think....it is just a coincidence
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 10:18 AM
Jul 2016

That Mitt says he received email from his son..asking Romney to run?

And it is alsi just coincidence that Preibus picked Mitt gal...from Utah...to be RNC Rules Committee Chair?

And that she....in turn...picked a Romney guy from Massachusetts to be her co-chair?

And that Mitt's niece became head of Michigan RNC (a state Romney lost to Obama)?

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
45. I don't think it's coincidence as much as wishful thinking.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jul 2016

It takes 25% of the Republican committee to allow a floor fight. Romney can probably get 28 insiders to vote for a floor fight.

What he will not win is the required number of delegates, especially after losing in a GE, to win the nomination.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
46. Its not wishful thinking..Im only reporting facts
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jul 2016

The real fear is Mitt blocks the 270 electorals from happening

Then Congress picks POTUS

Acivil warring scenario never before seen

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
47. He will never get the delegates for the GOP nomination.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jul 2016

In the view of many Republicans he had his chance and blew it.

If their convention goes to a floor fight they would be hard pressed to not give it to Cruz.

It's wishful thinking for the Romney family to think it would go any other way if it goes to a floor fight. He would be climbing the Himalayas in the middle of winter believing he's going to make it if he were to try this knowing that he failed the last time during perfect weather conditions the last time he tried.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
49. Your analogy gives too much credit to Mitt, on how hard
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:49 PM
Jul 2016

a feat the successful attempt would be

And not enough credit on how easily Romney rigged things in the past.

Like becoming Governor of Massachusetts

When he didn't even live there

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