2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThat is some aberrant nonsense...
I see the new media meme is that Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are both divisive. The difference is Hillary is divisive because of what people say about her. Trump is divisive because of what he says about other people.
And in that vein there is going to one of two narratives this general election season. One narrative is this is going to be a dog fight with a photo finish. Another narrative is that Trump is going down and taking the entire Republican party with him. Lets work to ensure the latter narrative comes to pass.
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Iliyah
(25,111 posts)down the Clintons no matter what. As to T-rump, he is a idiot, plain and simple.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)pffffft. I stopped watching Cable Newz in 2004, don't miss that shit one bit.
Surprisingly, I'm better informed now.
Native
(5,942 posts)he was on George's show (he had someone filling in for him).
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Trump's raison d'etre is to inflame racial tension.
Martin Eden
(12,867 posts)That cuts through all the media BS to the heart of the matter.
It's the same a Obama being divisive because of all the racism and lies hurled at him.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)"Never have two presidential nominees been as unpopular as Mr. Trump and Mrs. Clinton, and they are not fully trusted by their own parties nor showing significant crossover appeal in the polls."
then there's this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/politics/hillary-clinton-voters-trust.html
"Last week, speaking to a sympathetic crowd in Chicago, she also pointed a finger in a surprising new direction: at herself.
I personally know I have work to do on this front; a lot of people tell pollsters they dont trust me, Mrs. Clinton said in a speech to the Rainbow/Push Coalition on June 27. It is certainly true I have made mistakes, she said a moment later, adding, So I understand people having questions.
appears HRC understand there's a real issue, and makes a point to describe in more details as to what it is...
will folks here in DU follow her lead?
"Yet the snippet of introspection last week from Mrs. Clinton, a candidate not known for public soul-searching, may have signaled an important shift in how she and her campaign hope to do just that.
You cant just talk someone into trusting you, she told her audience. Youve got to earn it.
but her OWN ADVISERS pivoted...
"Mrs. Clintons advisers say there is little she can do to address this trust deficit head-on. While a candidate seen as unprepared could give speeches and interviews to demonstrate intellectual and policy heft, and intimate, folksy events could help address likability issues, distrust is not something that a week of themed events or a rollout of new proposals can correct.
Theres no magic set of words you can say to wash all that away, said Jennifer Palmieri, a campaign spokeswoman, who was referring specifically to Republican attacks, not to Mrs. Clintons own acts, as having eroded trust.
"So Mrs. Clinton will not bluntly ask voters to trust her, aides said. Instead, she will try to own up to the fact that many voters do not, and will discuss this in more personal terms, depending on the setting and audience."
Let's see how this plays out here in DU shall we?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Is it your argument that negative feelings about our presumptive nominee are justified?
Thank you in advance.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)maybe this will clarify
"Last week, speaking to a sympathetic crowd in Chicago, she also pointed a finger in a surprising new direction: at herself.
I personally know I have work to do on this front; a lot of people tell pollsters they dont trust me, Mrs. Clinton said in a speech to the Rainbow/Push Coalition on June 27. It is certainly true I have made mistakes, she said a moment later, adding, So I understand people having questions.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I was asking you if you felt those holding that view are justified.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)I'm merely the messenger...
I find it odd that even though HRC acknowledges these facts folks here on DU don't...
as least that's the premise I'm inferring from your replies...
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)She made a self deprecating statement to get votes. Only a moron like Donald Trump would say something like 'well if voters say they don't trust me then that's their fault.'
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)It's what goes for objectivity. No matter how stupid or offensive Donald Trump is expect them to spend equal time criticizing Clinton.