VPs aren't just "picked," they have to agree with running as SECOND on the ticket!

[MoonRiver]

This is one reason I do not understand why some people still think Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden are serious contenders. BOTH declined to run for president, even though both had enormous amounts of support behind them. Their reasons for not running for president were different, but the bottom line is the same. They did not want to run for the highest elected position in this country.

That said, WHY would they now turn around and decide to run as Hillary's VP, a position with little real influence, and, considering their ages, probably leading nowhere? Seriously, it boggles the, or at least my, mind that this idea is out there. They are both great Americans and Democrats, but come on.

[thesquanderer]

1. I wouldn't assume any correlation between not running for Pres and not wanting to be VP.

For example, maybe Warren just didn't want to run what would probably have been a difficult, divisive, and losing campaign against Hillary. Or maybe due to whatever else is going on in her life, she didn't want to spend the last year+ campaigning across the country. The timing of such a campaign would also have been difficult for Biden in his personal situation. For both people, it's a different time, running for a different position, running against a different candidate. Who's to say what choice they might make? If it were offered to Biden, he might prefer another stint of VP to retirement. And as for age 8 years from now, Warren would be about the same as Sanders was this time...

[MoonRiver]

2. Everything in life is about probabilities.

Of course the conditions you describe might happen, but probably won't. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

[thesquanderer]

6. re: "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior."

In that case, look how common it is for VP candidates to NOT have been people who were, themselves, presidential candidates.

Really, there's no reason for these possibilities to boggle your mind. As I said, it's a different time, running for a different position, running against a different candidate.

[MoonRiver]

9. That saying only refers to unique individuals, cause, of course, we're all different.

It is the oldest maxim in psychology. Tried and true.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but I would be very shocked if either one is on the ticket.

[AgadorSparticus]

3. Because it is not about her. Warren is a team player and if she is needed

On this ticket, she will suit up. Usually, the VP compliments the President and she brings the same demographics as the Sanders people. It makes total sense to me that she would be the veep.

And if this election is going the way I think it will go, we will do well downline and that will compensate for Warren leaving her post.

[pnwmom]

4. Most VP's don't run for President first. This means nothing. n/t

[The Second Stone]

5. I disagree. There are lots of reasons not to run for President in

a particular cycle that do not preclude joining the ticket as VP candidate. A good presidential run requires full commitment at least two years (if not four) prior to election day. I think it was clear to everyone but BS that Hillary Clinton had been setting up her run since she left the State Department, and clearly anyone else was going to be three years behind her when the late comers usually start their talks in the summer before (2015).

Running for President with any hope of winning requires enormous effort and commitment.

[Night Watchman]

7. Warren can be More Effective in the Senate

She and Hillary could be an excellent cross-branching tag team.

[randome]

8. "You. Get over here. You're my VP."

Why can't things be simpler?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

[MoonRiver]

10. Exactly! Somebody gets it!

[karynnj]

11. One obvious reason is HRC was a sure thing

Biden did consider it, but in Addition to family reasons, he would have been a long shot. Losing in the primaries a sad end to his long career.

[PragmaticLiberal]

12. When you're being vetted, you have to turn over your financials etc etc

So obviously anyone being vetted is interested...

[Eric J in MN]

13. +1 (NT)

NT

[jcgoldie]

14. There are a lot of reasons politicians don't run for president

Most of them don't include not actually wanting to be president. According to your argument no-one who didn't run for president last fall would ever be on the list. So I guess it will have to be Sanders, O'Malley, or that Harvard guy who only cared about abolishing the electoral college.

That aside, I don't think Biden would do it, but Warren has at least given off signs she would be willing.