2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumReich: Con-Man Trump Is Now Launching His Biggest Hoax Yet, Trying to Be Bernie Sanders
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37774-con-man-trump-is-now-launching-his-biggest-hoax-yet-trying-to-be-bernie-sandersTrump is posing as the anti-establishment populist, campaigning against the establishments Hillary Clinton. "If we're going to deliver real change, he said Tuesday in Pennsylvania, we're going to have to reject the campaign of fear and intimidation being pushed by powerful corporations, media elites, and powerful dynasties. The people who rigged the system for their benefit will do anything and say anything to keep things exactly as they are."
Multi-billionaire Trump who inherited his initial wealth and connections from his father, who then for year bribed politicians to subsidize his hotels and casinos, who repeatedly used bankruptcy to shield his fortune while leaving creditors and workers holding the bag is now a born-against populist who wants America to believe hes taking on both the Republican and Democratic establishments.
"It's almost -- in some ways, like, I'm running against two parties," Trump told conservative talk radio host Mike Gallagher earlier today, after leading Republicans have refused to endorse him and Republican political front groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce repudiated his trade plans. The Republican establishment couldn't have helped Trump more.
The surge of anti-establishment anger among American voters is real. But with Bernie effectively out of the race, theres no anti-establishment candidate. Huckster Trump is trying to take the mantle
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)is the strongest motivator. For instance, left-wing populists who joined Bernie progressives in insisting healthcare reform be repealed, but as an expression of resentment toward the Democratic Party, won't have that far to travel to join conservative populists who want to repeal healthcare reform period and also shaft the Democrats.
Statisticians say there's about 10% "defection" every election and ours is looking normal for 2016, so BFD and whatever.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)We wanted it expanded and developed into single-payer.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Thousands of sections on issues like patient privacy, surgical time-outs, electronic medical records might be copied into a new system, but new laws would have to be passed and the ACA framework would have to be scrapped. In justification, a great deal of contempt and hostility have been expressed toward the ACA, and many lies about its many failures as well.
Anyway, that's hardly the point. The point is that, for populists primarily motivated by resentment, issues like the ACA were merely what their populist progressive leader spoke of, not reflections of their own principles or aspiration. Studies show that a significant number of Bernie's supporters are actually NOT for a single-payer system.
In any case, Bernie was the leader some left-wing populists chose for a while, but now some of those will migrate to the only other populist leader in the field.
Is there any comparison between Sanders and the bloated, bloviating Nazi????
tRump isn't a populist he is a fascist.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)This's an NPR article on populism in the U.S. right now and how it's likely to affect the parties, but googling "populism" "trump" "sanders" will pull up a bunch of others.
http://www.npr.org/2016/04/25/475551861/populist-candidates-appeal-to-voters-who-feel-theyre-unheard
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Good job.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Bad job, Scootaloo.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)You move from one system to the next in a gradual but certain way in order to minimize disruption. This would necessitate legislation designed for such a transition, and yes would ultimately result in the sunsetting of the ACA in favor of the new system. This is a different thing from repealing it, however. A repeal simply removes the law. Poof, all gone.
Also, you have not provided any support for your "populists motivated by resentment." Who? Where? What resentment? All we have is your assurances about them.
Further your belief that left-wing populists will got to Trump is just... well.. fucking stupid. I don't think you understand the left. I'm certain you think you do, but it seems to be a weird John Birch Society interpretation where we're all just angry stupid bitter anarchists wanting to blow everything up so we can stack the rubble.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Anger/resentment against elites, although many subjects can become avowed targets, such as immigrants,
PLUS
A host ideology. The host can be almost any ideology on the planet. The populist phenomenon is very flexible that way.
Why not read that article about populism in America? You're not going to take me out, so either passing over my posts or learning something about the topics I join in or would seem sensible.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)They don't understand what populism is, really. Anyone, of any political philosophy, can use populism to gain support. In itself, populism has no particular political position. It's a strategy, not a philosophy.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)it's a negative energy to harness. For a follower, it's readiness for a leader who will provide a crowd to join and targets to sic them on.
The Donald is a salesman and almost certainly identified this market eager to be served long ago, but I wonder, at what point did someone explain to him that he's the leader of a populist movement?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I suggest you learn your political terms and ideologies before trying to use them. I hate to tell you but an op-ed from a reader-provided news blog isn't going to give you an able education in the subject.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Response to Hortensis (Reply #1)
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)wrong in ascribing this orientation to me. I've supported a national healthcare program of the single-payer type before the majority of today's voters were born.
As for the post you link to, I assumed all DUers are aware of the thousands of posts on this and so referred only briefly to the many, many calls for getting rid of the imagined dreadful failure of the ACA and--of course, why would this need to be pointed out on DU?--replacing it with a single payer system.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)riversedge
(70,311 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,601 posts)Con people into believing that Don Trump supports progressive policies.
A con man to the bitter core.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)was not listening to Bernie. "Anything is better than this" is not a political philosophy. It's just dissatisfaction.
Donald Trump is little more than a painful, itchy, inflamed hemorrhoid on the body politic. He gets attention, but relief is illusory.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Great Pretender?
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Most did not