2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy isn't there more discussion about allegations of Trump raping a CHILD?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.htmlAn anonymous Jane Doe filed a federal lawsuit against GOP presumptive nominee Donald Trump last week, accusing him of raping her in 1994 when she was thirteen years old. The mainstream media ignored the filing.
If the Bill Cosby case has taught us anything, it is to not disregard rape cases against famous men. Serious journalists have publicly apologized for turning a blind eye to the Cosby accusers for over a decade, notwithstanding the large number of women who had come forward with credible claims. And now history is repeating itself.
In covering a story, a media outlet is not finding guilt. It is simply reporting the news that a lawsuit has been filed against Mr. Trump, and ideally putting the complaint in context. Unproven allegations are just that - unproven, and should be identified that way. (Mr. Trumps lawyer says the charges are categorically untrue, completely fabricated and politically motivated.) Proof comes later, at trial. But the November election will come well before any trial. And while Mr. Trump is presumed innocent, we are permitted - no, we are obligated to analyze the cases viability now.
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I have done that. And the answer is a clear yes. These allegations are credible. They ought not be ignored. Mainstream media, Im looking at you.
We need to keep this story going DU. This is very serious!
Doodley
(9,119 posts)IMO, whether this allegation is true or not, Trump is a monster. The same standard of reporting should apply to Trump as to Bill Cosby.
MH1
(17,600 posts)25 might be an exaggeration. But I know it was a lot of women.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be considered, if there is any credibility to the allegation. What I am saying is that it is not unusual for it to be ignored when there is only one accuser that is way past the statute of limitations.
SheriffBob
(552 posts)Sigh.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)The feces flinging will begin shortly after that. From both sides.
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femmocrat
(28,394 posts)He does use it repeatedly.
I have been reading about this case on the internets, but it seems the MSM is being more cautious for now.
Lisa Bloom could show up on TV any day, though!
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)there in cyberspace linking Bill C. to Epstein as well.
4139
(1,893 posts)Bill supposed stuff with Epstein happened when cell phone were around
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Anyone who rapes a child should go to jail, even if it's Bill. That's not the point.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)There is an affidavit from one of Epstein's victims that she never saw Bill Clinton act inappropriately,
OTOH, there are pleadings where a woman alleges when she was twelve she saw Trump assault a thirteen year old girl.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Jeffrey Epstein also knows everybody from Trump to Clinton to Prince Charles to John Kerry to Tony Blair. The rich and powerful are different than you and i, really different.
I despise Trump. I think he's loathsome, but I don't believe he's insane and that is what a man in his position would have to be to have sex with a thirteen year old girl.
Here is the allegation:
I personally witnessed the one occasion where Mr. Trump forced the Plaintiff and a 12-year-old female named Maria [to] perform oral sex on Mr. Trump and witnessed his physical abuse of both minors when they finished the act.
It was my job to personally witness and supervise encounters between the underage girls that Mr. Epstein hired and his guests.
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)And he has to be desirous of children. I'm not sure that he is, but he has said some very whacked out, creepy things about his own daughter so I don't think it's completely out of the question.
And I believe that he has the hubris to feel he is above the law and entitled.
So I'm not ruling it out.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Do a google search of Jeffrey Epstein.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)If he really did this, he should be brought to justice.
I'm tired of this f*cker getting away with anything and everything. I'm tired of him pointing fingers at people for doing nothing while he gets away with murder.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Let's be clear.
But if this were an actual rape case involving a nominee for President, do you honestly think this would be kept hush hush? Bill Cosby is not a reasonable comparison at all.
Having worked on a Presidential campaign and seen the depths that candidates will go to, true or not, I would think it would be genius for the Clinton camp to have put this out even without evidence. Then, when he comes at Bill for indiscretions he looks like a whining baby and rendered ineffective against Bill.
Not accusing the campaign, I think it would be genius though. But that's my heavily jaded political opinion
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)I'm not sure it is an actual rape case. I am sure that it is an actual allegation and I don't understand why there isn't being made more of this when Hillary undergoes a proctology exam every time she steps in front of a microphone.
Vinca
(50,302 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)shrieking because Bill Clinton talked to Loretta Lynch.