trying not to be a doug downer ... however

[littlewolf]

this is just my observation ... do not know if it is
from being exhausted or what ...
this doesn't feel like 08 ... the joy isn't there ...
I do not trust the polls ... something just doesn't feel
right .... 2 of my best friends .. people who always vote
Dem .. took their Obama signs down and told me they
were voting for Romney .... because of Libya .... and
the way it was handled .... I will be glad when this is over
thanks for letting me rant ... everything is probably gonna
be fine ... this season just seems long this time...

[VirginiaTarheel]

1. Trash and DELETE

[beaglelover]

3. +1

[GoCubsGo]

12. +2

"Not trying to be a downer."

[obamanut2012]

49. +1

[sarcasmo]

75. +4 and next week they shall be gone.

[Drunken Irishman]

2. Ugh.

[bayareamike]

4. The President will win tomorrow. End of thread. nt

[brooklynite]

5. Of COURSE this isn't 2008...

...nobody said it would be. Doesn't mean there won't be a strong turnout, now that people recognize what they have to lose.

[Evergreen Emerald]

6. Damn! You should get smarter friends!

No wonder you are depressed.

[fleur-de-lisa]

16. LOL! That was funny! - eom

[BeyondGeography]

7. Oh for the love of Eeyore

[cbayer]

8. Wow! I wonder what you would write if you were trying to be a Doug Downer.

[codjh9]

9. yeah, but I've read a LOT of stories about people who are doing the opposite of your 2 friends

[Cane4Dems]

10. Your friends are NOT true dems

If they believe that Libya nonsense they must be not that smart

[anneboleyn]

64. Exactly. They are Fox viewers and not Obama supporters. OP sounds very trollish.

[Light63]

11. I don't believe it's a doug downer that you're feeling.

It's called anxiety! All of us are in that same mental stage now, I guess. Have faith, go out and vote and everything will turn out all right. Definitely, 4 more years of Barack Obama will be with us and our country.

[littlewolf]

34. oh I have already voted ... happily ... now

its just the waiting ....

[GodlessBiker]

13. You need to get on your medication or off of it. Whichever fits. You'll feel better.

The joy isn't there ... FOR YOU!

It's there for me in spades!!!!

[geek tragedy]

14. I won't alert, but you should delete this crap.

We are winning. Period. The data tells us that.

Stop moping.

[Chan790]

76. It's rough...

getting on someone for having anxiety. I mean...geez, I have a degree in Poli. Theory and know exactly how over this race is...and I have anxiety. Some of you people are brutal...it's like the Soviet politboro in here sometimes, are we going to shoot people for having doubts and concerns?

[Thrill]

15. Hate to say it. But anyone who votes for Mittens because of Libya

Is a damn fool.

[budkin]

17. Trolling SOB

[democrattotheend]

45. The guy has over 1,000 posts. I doubt he is a troll

And he's right that we probably won't win by the same margins as in 2008. That said, I think we're going to win. But he's right that it's not quite as exciting as 2008.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

58. There Was A Poster Named Seventhson.

He had tens of thousands of posts and a star.


He "came out" Election Eve 04 but not before PMIng a bunch of DUERS and telling them he hoped they get HIV.

[electionwatcher]

18. trying not to be a doug downer

I'm afraid you didn't try hard enough!

[Agnosticsherbet]

19. B. B. King did this much better.

Try harder.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

20. The Election of 2008 was a change election. There will NEVER be another election like it.

To compare 2008 with 2012 is ridiculous.

Take your negativity elsewhere and get better friends.

Trashing thread.

[dorkzilla]

21. Tagg! I told you to stay off the computer!!!!!

[Wait Wut]

27. !

[Skittles]

22. LOL

I mean, please - "because of Libya" ? That is FOX NEWS CENTRAL. I surprised you did not throw DEMOCRAT PARTY in there.

[renate]

59. to be fair, isn't it probably the ads, too?

Living in Oregon, I've seen about two political ads all year, but I'd be surprised if the Romney campaign hasn't been blathering about Libya. And a lot of people still think it's not legal to put something on TV that isn't true.

[fugop]

23. Not trying to be a meanie but ...

... I don't buy that story. That sounds like friends who have been telling you they're Dems but really aren't. Tell them to trying turning off Fox News after the election. Maybe they can get their sanity back.

[orpupilofnature57]

24. The halo effect is gone, but he's not.

[yellowcanine]

25. Sure didn't try very hard....

No one "let you rant" so no need to thank us and maybe you ought to find some new "friends" because the two you have sound like idiots.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

26. Please jump now please.

[FSogol]

28. This is you:

http://sadtrombone.com/?play=true&play=true

Cheer up. Democratic victories are on the way!

[liberalmuse]

29. Horse Hockey!

Anyone who was truly Dem is smart enough to know that the Libya crap the right wing is whipping up is a bunch of garbage. The needle on my BS meter just went up a bit.

[kerouac2]

30. I took my signs down the other day...

because I was afraid they were going to blow away -
but they're back up again now.

[PsychProfessor]

31. Trying not to be a doug downer?

Epic fail.

[sufrommich]

32. I'm pretty sure this was meant as a joke. nt

[obamanut2012]

53. I don't think so

[joc46224]

33. What good does it do to act defeated?

I don't understand the hand wringing and "cup half empty" attitude as I don't understand what it accomplishes, other than making you more depressed. Maybe "understand" is the wrong word because I do understand it--I often get that way about things that are important to me in the mistaken thought that it will be less painful of a let down if my worst fears come true. However fearing the worst doesn't make it any less painful should the worst come to pass, it just makes me miserable before AND after.

Anyway, of course it's not like 2008. In 2008 Barack Obama made history. There was a lot of enthusiasm in the energy he brought and the idea of America having it's first black President. A lot of idealism and "feel good". Now we've got a more mature candidate, not the idealistic candidate we all thought would build some sort of utopian society. But that doesn't mean Obama isn't going to win again any more than it means once you get over the high of your honeymoon you'll divorce your spouse. If anything it's a much more realistic support of Obama that's happening.

Finally, I've known many of my friends who voted for McCain in 2008 that simply CANNOT stand Romney and will not vote for him. Some are actually voting for Obama, others for Gary Johnson.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

35. Not buying it. Not a single Democrat I know are voting for Romney. Zero, zilch, zip.

Since I live in Texas. I know a lot of moderate Dems. They're pissed off about the lying, not falling for it.

Any person who "always vote Dem" wouldn't be buying debunked FOX propaganda.

[blue neen]

36. Uh, yes you are.

[Blue_In_AK]

37. Oh, please...

[scheming daemons]

38. FAIL.... how'd you get to 1300+ posts?

[klook]

39. The "Trash this Thread" button is one of my favorite DU features (n/t)

[Blueprogress]

43. Yup

+ ignore for sanity.

[anneboleyn]

65. I am trashing this troll garbage also.

[NHDEMFORLIFE]

40. Ummm ...

The 15,000 people standing in the cold for hours Sunday in front of the NH state capitol, waiting to hear from President Clinton and President Obama, seemed pretty fired up and ready to go.
Of course, that's just a bit of anecdotal evidence from a state that the Romney campaign internals say will be going bright red for Willard.

[progressivebydesign]

42. 50k today in Ohio for the President, too. 23k at several recent rallies.

I see more stickers and signs than last time, and every person I talk to that voted Obama last time are voting enthusiastically this time. PLUS lots of NEW ones!!! I don't buy the enthusiasm gap bullshit, either.

[democrattotheend]

46. Where did you hear 50,000? I heard 18,000

I thought 50,000 was the size of the crowd for the Obama/Springsteen rally in 2008.

[progressivebydesign]

41. Your friend took down their Obama signs? I call bullshit.

The signs were hard to get this time, and for someone to put up a sign then take it down because of "libya' is kinda bullshit.

They were Obama fans who watch fox news??? because it was ONLY the RW sources that tried to turn it into a conspiracy. Of course, if your stupid ass friends haven't voted yet, you might want to clue them in that the CIA has blown those RW lies right open.

No one would take down a sign and suddenly vote for Robme because of that...

[daligirl519]

44. Welcome to the DU Poetry Slam!

Dude. The ellipse is not your friend. This had better be a joke.

[TwilightGardener]

47. I love the way this was written--pauses between each phrase, no

punctuation... I mean... who cares man... the joy isn't there so why bother crafting actual sentences and paragraphs... not sure why I'm calling this a rant since I'm all like who cares... just so tired... Obama yard signs down... Libya... yeah...

[obamanut2012]

54. lol

[BlueDemKev]

48. Let me tell you why you feel the way you do...

...first off, in 2008 we were comfortably ahead (and were for pretty much all of the campaign). We were ecstatic because the Bush-Cheney Era was coming to an end and we knew that we would soon have a Democratic President and a Democratic president in D.C.. However, this euphoria was tinged with apprehension and concern...our country was in crisis. Our economy had collapsed in Sept. 2008 was in a total freefall, with 750,000 jobs being lost every single month. The downturn continued well into Obama's first year in office.

Since our victory in 2008, we Democrats have been under a lot of pressure to "right the ship" from the public and under constant outrageous attacks from the tea party and those on the far right. Given how difficult things were in America during 2009-10 because of the economy, the hateful rhetoric from the tea-baggers resonated with the American people and we lost the House along with six seats in the Senate in the 2010 midterm elections.

Now, as the economy slowly but steadily improves, people are giving Obama a second look. Yes, the deficit has soared, but that happens anytime there is a major crisis such as a war or an economic collapse. However, Obama's accomplishments are quite notable: health care reform (upheld by the Supreme Court, ha-ha!), bin Laden is dead, ZERO terrorist attacks in the homeland, and 2+ years of positive private-sector job growth.

So no, it's hard to feel "euphoric" when we've been working so damn hard at trying to get America moving again, but that burden comes with the responsibility of governing. Tomorrow night we will feel a great sense of euphoria when we are vindicated for all of our hard work the past four years in the face of extreme adversity.

Obama-Biden 2012
Keep America Moving Forward!

[obamanut2012]

50. Life long Dems would NEVER vote for Romney

Epic Fail.

[Larry in KC]

51. Am I right that this post just doesn't pass the smell test?

...2 of my best friends... because of Libya... and the way it was handled...

Just really doesn't ring true.

[AverageJoe90]

52. Sorry about your friends.

But most of my observations tell me that not only are our fellow Dems fired up, but in some cases, even more so than in '08.

[otohara]

55. Guns Kill 32,000 - Not A Problem

4 courageous American's died knowing they faced danger everyday.

This country has it's priorities all backasswards

[MatthewStLouis]

56. Someone changing their vote because of Libya?! Ha ha ha ha ha!

That is utter baloney. Sorry. It is.

Here is some fantasy for you: Imagine red meat republicans deciding not to vote for Bush because he didn't protect us on 9/11...

I think your "FRiends" are joshing you.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

57. Your Concern Is Duly Noted.Thank You For Your Input./nt

[Bucky]

60. You're right. I'm depressed. Now I can't even vote. I'll tell my family in PA and Nev not to bother.

I totally give up. Damn that Romney and his tricksy ways!

[OldDem2012]

61. Horse dung. Trashing....3....2...1....POOF!!

[yeswecanandwedid]

62. So let me get this straight...

Just because they have a problem with how Libya was handled, they are willing to flush our futures down the toilet? Have they heard of a guy called Osama Bin Laden by chance? I don't get these "fair weather democrats," /shrug.

[faithfulcitizen]

63. Just curious, what state do you live in?

[littlewolf]

71. NC my congressman is Butterfield

who will cruise to easy victory.
Bev Purdue gave Dalton a hard row to hoe
but with luck he will be the next NC gov.

it is the rest of the country I am worried about.

[faithfulcitizen]

79. Look, I'm in Indiana and I think they are similar...

I have many anecdotes such as yours. People I know who voted for Obama in 2008 but aren't in 2010. But, the truth is 2008 was very unusual for Indiana to go blue and NC is generally very conservative and has similar racial issues. Some of the people I know voted for Obama in 2008 and I was shocked, mostly repubs or dinos! So, we are just swinging back to normal a bit. I still think we will win decisively but it won't be 2008-which was a HUGE win over McCain. Take care!

[TroyD]

66. "told me they were voting for Romney .... because of Libya"

Why would they do that?

[madinmaryland]

67. Oh, FFS. The only ones talking about Libya are Fox "News". And the only ones

watching Fox are die-hard Pukes who would never vote for President Obama.

Fuck off with that nonsense.

[DCBob]

68. trying not to be dougie doubter but....

I find it hard to believe any good Democrat would vote for Romney due to Libya. Thats completely absurd.

[Zoeisright]

69. Your friends are really really stupid

If they believe repuke Benghazi lies.

[Hippo_Tron]

70. Let me see if I can give you a little analogy that might help with this

McCain's odds of winning in 2008 were comparable to the odds of my car being hit by an airplane on the way to work tomorrow.

Romney's odds of winning tomorrow are comparable to the odds of my car being hit by another car on the way to work tomorrow.

Romney winning the election is within the realm of reasonable possibility. But it's not likely. Chill out, get some sleep, and go vote tomorrow if you haven't already.

[littlewolf]

72. thank you

got a nap and now at work. feel better
like the analogy. it is just as an incumbent the
President should be alot more ahead.

[DevonRex]

73. Hehheh. Heehee. snicker. SNORT!!!!

Let's see. They put up their signs prior to September 11th and just now took them down almost 2 months later, saying they've changed their minds because of what happened on September 11th.

Riiiiiight.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

74. Voters are not interested in Libya

I'm very surprised that your 'best' friends are voting for Romney because of Libya.

[bigwillq]

77. I'm sick of this election cycle

So ready for it to be over.
I am not excited at all for this election. I was in 2008 because I couldn't wait for Bush to go, but never been a huge Obama fan.
But I do like voting, so I am excited to vote tomorrow!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

78. I will never understand why people who want to express concerns, debate any issue

they want can't just be left alone. This is free speech right? Why, if you have the time to trash this person, don't you just pass it by? It's not like writing is making it true. And, if the person is a troll....so what...ignoring will do much more than 50 "get lost" posts.
And, no negative thing anyone says would matter one iota to how I feel or what I do.