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yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:21 PM Nov 2012

Why are Republicans now basically pushing a national ID for voting?

After all, what many state Republican legislators seem to be pushing is a voter ID based on a birth certificate or naturalization card. In other words, a U.S. Passport which not only would be good for voting but also to prove citizenship. But which also could be used to track the movement of everybody 24/7. After all, if strict immigration laws force people to carry proof of citizenship all the time for fear of being detained if they can't produce their "papers" if they get stopped for speeding, they will have to carry a U.S. Passport or some equivalent. With the current Homeland Security, terrorism hunt, and anti immigration atmosphere prevailing, it is easy for me to see Republican legislators banging the drums for U.S. Passports for everyone, with every passport carrying a RFID chip which could be automatically scanned at travel checkpoints everywhere - not just air travel, but bus, train, subway, highway toll booths, etc. Am I being too tin foil hat here?

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Why are Republicans now basically pushing a national ID for voting? (Original Post) yellowcanine Nov 2012 OP
drones can lock in on the chip in your ID .... or one planted under your skin. sleep well nt msongs Nov 2012 #1
If Obama wins Mojo2 Nov 2012 #2
It is very simple. LiberalArkie Nov 2012 #3
Next, the popular vote Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #4
They were ready to Firebirds01 Nov 2012 #5
Getting rid of EC would almost guarantee Democratic dominance of Presidential elections for years to yellowcanine Nov 2012 #7
Some democrats have supported this to abort the voter id laws hollysmom Nov 2012 #6
 

Mojo2

(332 posts)
2. If Obama wins
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:25 PM
Nov 2012

then we will not have any of these nutjob items passed in time for the 2016 election. If anything, we need a democratic sponsered RIGH TTO VOTE legislation to knowk down some of these extreme GOP state voter surpression tactics

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
3. It is very simple.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:27 PM
Nov 2012

Right now you have to go to a person and prove who you are to register to vote. Whether it is the DMV or the tax people who ever. They would notice the same people registering under 500 different name.

Now with an automated card that can be printed off by the thousands (counterfeited) the possibilities for voter fraud is unlimited.

Filibuster Harry

(666 posts)
4. Next, the popular vote
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:29 PM
Nov 2012

Republicans think they can win an election by suppressing the vote. We will find out. Funny how they didn't try the voter ID law in their own primary? If Romney loses the electoral college but wins the popular will they then push for the popular vote and abolish the electoral college? Didn't care about that after the 2000 election did they?

 

Firebirds01

(576 posts)
5. They were ready to
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:34 PM
Nov 2012

try and abolish the electoral college if they lost in 2000 but won the popular vote. This seriously was their strategy./

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
7. Getting rid of EC would almost guarantee Democratic dominance of Presidential elections for years to
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:41 PM
Nov 2012

come. Right now smaller less populated states have a huge advantage in the EC. It is the same advantage they have for senators. They get one EV for each senator. Going to the popular vote would eliminate that advantage. Actually the fair thing to do would be to allocate senators by population as the House of Reps is done. So larger states would have more senators, smaller states like Wyoming would only get one. Then allocate the EVs by congressional district and award the winner of the state the EVs for the senators. That would preserve some of the advantages of the current system but be more fair in terms of one person-one vote.

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