2016 Postmortem
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eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Perhaps I missed the change?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Before it was (barely) hidden by a jury of actual Democrats and our allies.
I would say those 104 people are not Democrats nor are they our allies.
Once that crowd leaves DU, it will be a much better place.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)that their actions demonstrate a lack of sense.
If by progressive we mean advocating for a progressively liberal viewpoint, a vote for Trump makes no sense. He is running as a racist.
I understand the anger and frustration of people who worked hard for a candidate, but that anger and frustration was undoubtedly shared by HRC supporters in 2008. Voting against the party cannot strengthen that party and I believe that Bernie Sanders will say as much and more after the Convention.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)for McCain over Obama because they had lost their goddamn minds.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)I came around by November (actually it was never in question that I would vote for him, but I wasn't HAPPY about it for a good long while) and so did the vast majority of even the PUMAs (of which I was never one).
The same thing will happen this election season. No sane person wants Trump anywhere near the WH. Even putting liberal issues aside, we can't rule out nuclear war if he's got his finger on the button. Much less keeping ACA, keeping same sex marriage, rights for women, minorities, and the disabled.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)choose the better candidate. Not voting is having no voice.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)To imagine that only the progressive agenda needs to be served by the D Party is ludicrous.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)We don't dislike Hillary because she is a Democrat, we dislike her for being a neoliberal war hawk.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)HRC or Donald Trump? That will apparently be the choice. So which one does a voter choose and why?
brush
(53,792 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)qdouble
(891 posts)Many posters here hate Hillary more than Trump...will be nice when it stops being bizarro world.
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-none
(1,884 posts)Never mind that he is running a more honest campaign and is NOT under FBI investigation.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Oh happy day.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)will still be allowed? Bernie won my State by a wide margin and you are suggesting this very Democratic State is not really Democratic. That's actually very nasty work.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)See: " Why) Why are you calling Sanders a racist?"
brush
(53,792 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Get your tap shoes on... you're going to need them.
Just wait 'til "the haters" start digging into the Foundation and pay-for-play, among other things. It will become painfully apparent that all this "historical significance," i.e., selecting an abysmal candidate to satisfy their self-aggrandizing hubris comes at a price.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)win isn't allowed here.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)that factual criticism, is actually constructive. Interesting.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)You were able to be precise here but not in the OP?
R i i i ght.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)of the party, when they're not citing stories from Breitbart and Fox News.
yourout
(7,531 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)And I bet it'll be posting privileges before principles for the loudest of the #neverHillary brigade.
Sid
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Cowards. Big men to trash Democrats for years under a stacked jury system, hiding AA posters "uppitiness," being downright nasty beyond belief. Going to get right quiet and wait it out so they can start their shit before inauguration day. Any compromise, any kind of human decency will be rebuffed with ad hominems and downright ugliness.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Hopefully the attacks like that will NOT be able to start back up again after the GE.
mac56
(17,571 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)for people who love income inequality, fracking, big banks, and war. No thanks.
seekthetruth
(504 posts)....than supporting ideals that are sorely lacking in the leadership of this country.
LonePirate
(13,426 posts)Sanders' supporters dislike Clinton for the reasons you mention. However, Clinton's supporters like her for a completely different set of reasons (not for the reasons you claim).
Similarly, Sanders' supporters like him for reasons that are different than the reasons Clinton's supporters dislike him.
You have boxed everybody into your narrow viewpoints while failing to accept that different people can view complex subjects (in this case, political candidates and their positions) and arrive at a different conclusion than one you reached.
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felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)that is kicking its own ass.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)and you need to understand that the Super Delegates do not vote until July 25th.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)And that includes the pledged delegates who are not actually bound to vote for any particular candidate, either.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Posters will be expected to support the presumptive nominee.
seekthetruth
(504 posts)No debate, just submission. Just about the most undemocratic environment I can think of.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)You'll see.
mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)I'm sorry you don't. It's a sad day when arguing politics and policies is considered anti Democratic Party.
Please don't dismiss us as not being pro Democratic party just because we may favor one candidate over another.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)You don't have to prefer HRC to Bernie to be pro-Democratic.