2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWe Might Be Seeing Some Herding From Pollsters
To see whether this is happening, Ill plot the absolute value of the state polls error, over time. (The error is the difference between a polls reported proportion supporting Obama, and my models estimate of the true population proportion.) Herding would be indicated by a decline in the average survey error towards zero representing no difference from the consensus mean over the course of the campaign. This is exactly what we find. Although there has always been a large amount of variation in the polls, the underlying trend as shown by the lowess smoother line, in blue reveals that the average error in the polls started at 1.5% in early May, but is now down to 0.9%.
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democrat_patriot
(2,774 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Silver said he saw the same thing in 08.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They could think that the state polls have been herding all along.
smorkingapple
(827 posts)I don't like to read that. Maybe it doesn't mean much in the end but if it means all polling in recent week plus is biased in same direction we COULD be in for a surprise tomorrow. I wonder how Silver and Wang etc account for this at all.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)It is what it is. It's something to be concerned about but not overly concerned.
But the agggegators aren't getting worked up it so neither am I...
And just a cursory review of the data suggests the herding effect isn't that strong at the state level.
I do think the nat'l pollsters are afraid to be wrong.
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)I'm going with the odds-makers.
I'll take money over fear, anytime.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Discussing the herding effect is a nice topic for a Poli Sci. paper but for almost all the polls to be wrong in one direction defies credulity.