2016 Postmortem
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This could mean one or two things.
1. Internal polling shows Hillary will win CA
2. Word has gotten out that the campaign ends tomorrow no matter what happens (Bernie drops out)
I think it's probably mostly #2. And if it is, expect the volume of leaks and insider information to increase over the next 36 hours.
EDIT: Another big clue: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512137542
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)nobody says bernie should "drop out" , he needs to act like an adult and start unifying..... as the election for all intents and purposes, is officially NOT about him any more
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)Of course, he needs to concede and endorse. If he wants to wait a day or two fine...or even waste his time calling supers...Ok by me...but if he intends to as his surrogate Tad said yesterday to barnstorm across the country...in order to gain the attention of supers...it is not ok.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)to Hillary. They dug their own graves.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)Still a long time till November or even till the convention. Still time for Bernie to do the right thing.
Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)And I'm certain there is some talent in the Sanders camp.
Did you know that Devine has never had a major role in a winning campaign?
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Nobody needs to worry about him. He made plenty off those $27 donations.
MADem
(135,425 posts)If they haven't been hired already!
LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)after a long, long weekend of drinking.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)embracing and done with primary.
I hope you are right. I hope he does the right thing. If not, it matters not to Clinton. I think she will come out of any chaos strong. She won't be the one stepping over the line. Merely be the observer. It will be a punishment to Sanders reputation.
Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)You can do or say whatever you want about most of the DNC, but Obama is a master politician and will cut the Sanders camp to bits if they don't do the right thing.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)BootinUp
(47,197 posts)I mean this will be a contested convention and all. I'm sure the troops will be all fired up again after he gets walloped on Tuesday.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)There has been a great deal of ...to the convention even if I lose California...blah blah. No matter what he loses tomorrow when Jersey comes in.
BootinUp
(47,197 posts)Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)They have been campaigning hard...and Bill is there. He is very effective....I hear Chelsea and the baby will be with her on Tuesday too.
Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)They went from "we will win" to "remember the Alamo."
Same thing happened in NY.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)But the part in quotes is her words.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)Turr is assigned to the Sanders camp. She was talking about what the campaign was like today put this out there.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:00 AM - Edit history (1)
Mail in ballots can be posted until 8 pm on Tuesday.
I don't see Bernie dropping out before it is known if he won or lost in California.
After that I think he might negotiate with Clinton for some concessions on the platform in return for his support. A week or two are not going to matter in the grand scheme of things. It is not as if Trump is using the time wisely anyway.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)If it takes a few days for CA, that's good for her campaign either way. Obviously, good if she wins, but if she loses, the results will have been drug out for so long, that the power of the loss is reduced. And, even if Sanders decides to have some sort of victory rally, several days later it will be pretty pathetic after Hillary has already been declared the presumptive nominee, and the media attention has shifted to Trump v. Clinton.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)since he's always said he's staying in until everyone has voted (unless he wants to insult the black voters in DC). But after that, I would think everyone in the party would make it clear to him that he has ZERO chance of flipping anyone, and it's over. If he fought on past then, all he would do is ruin his own reputation.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,035 posts)And people don't really want to go there. But he does.
Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)But I don't think he's so crazy to do that without an organization.
Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)By itself, that would seem to be enough.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Even 80-20 won't close the delegate gap completely, but it would be an earth-shattering statement.
A close result, which now it looks like it will be, won't do anything for him.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)At this point, we all expected something like this from team Clinton today.