2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMonths after the primary, I'm still seeing dozens of Bernie yard signs, and *no* Hillary signs.
What does the complete lack of any visible signs of support for Hillary say about her elusive base of supporters? And what does the plethora of Bernie signs everywhere say about Hillary's ability to unify the party?
What is the neighborhood sign situation where you live??? Please weigh in with your "anecdotal" observations.
I'm in Massachusetts, btw, a state that Hillary supposedly "won" back in March. (I don't buy it for a minute, though.)
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)He must be still viable.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)I moved it into the garage to the fall. Don't want it to get damaged or stolen.
Vinca
(50,303 posts)But I spotted one exception. About a mile from my house there is a yard with about a dozen Trump signs. Very disturbing.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)To no ones surprise, I'm sure.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)duh.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Which is cool.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)Along with all of my other yard signs for candidates. Drive by, and you'll see it then.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)of scenes.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I'll leave them to future generations--they'll be worth a fortune some day!
But DISPLAY them? Hell no! What's the point?
Anyone who is so stupid that they'd vote for someone because they see a sign on a stranger's lawn is probably too dumb to find the polling booth on election day. Signs and bumper stickers make the OWNER of them feel good. They're also attractants to vermin who would wish you ill--there are TRUMPeters who just might want to key your car for your Bernie sticker, or poison your dog for your yard sign.
This is a weird world--why invite trouble by announcing to people who don't give a shit about you who you are voting for? It's more "LOOK AT ME" than "Support my candidate."
Further, I think that the type of people who vote for HRC don't have a need to "Rah rah" and hoot-n-holler. They just get up off their ass and go vote. Quietly and with determination.
Also, I have found that the number of signs is inversely proportional to the likelihood of victory. Massachusetts was STINKIN' from all the Romney 4 Prez signs--that didn't work out too well for him, did it?
I'm in MA, too--and I'm not seeing many signs for anyone. A few "BERNIE" bumperstickers, and the very odd Trump hat on the street -- but that pretty much bears out my thesis. Because ALL my neighbors voted for Clinton.
A Little Weird
(1,754 posts)In my red state, I see quite a few Bernie signs and tons of bumper stickers and no Hillary signs and a few bumper stickers. And tons of Trump signs/bumper stickers.
In general, I've observed that Hillary supporters aren't excited about her - they see her as inevitable. (I'm sure there are exceptions who are very excited about her, I just don't encounter them.) But signage doesn't give an indication of how many people are out there that feel that way. Supporting someone you feel is inevitable is not really something that inspires you to put up a sign. Bernie supporters on the other hand, are fired up and realize they have a huge climb. They want to get the message out - so signs make sense.
There's definitely an enthusiasm gap between the candidates. Unfortunately, it seems most voters are willing to just go with the flow and take whoever the media and the "powers-that-be" deem appropriate.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)peggysue2
(10,839 posts)in the number of votes and delegates she's racked up.
Come on, this is a stupid argument.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)I did see one Trump sticker the other day and had to speed up to get a good look at the fucker - and a fucker he was.
Cheers.
EDIT - I have only seen one HRC yard sign but it's in a commercial parking lot so... makes sense?
onenote
(42,759 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)We aren't 'fans' who are wooed , we're Democrats who understand the impact of this election, we GOTV and focus on the importance of that over rallies and merch.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)JI7
(89,264 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Raissa
(217 posts)I see Trump signs on the roadside (but not in yards) and have seen a small number of Hillary yard signs - mostly in the suburban area around the schools. A decent amount of Bernie bumper stickers though.
I don't personally do bumper stickers as I end up in red areas where people will mess up your car.
I do have Hillary mugs, and still have an Obama mug and wooden train.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)I'm in an area with a lot of wide open farmland and swamps and those long stretches are where I tend to see the Trump signs. I think there is a lot of support but local demographics make people more hesitant to own it. I'm thinking that the central ridge you'd see a lot more.
I saw a ton when I visited Indiana, but I was also there during their primaries.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)I've seen a total of THREE Hillary stickers in the last 3 months.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)So true. Kind of just hit me.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)of Bernie signs/stickers. Have seen 1 Hillary sticker. It said "Hillary for prison 2016."
book_worm
(15,951 posts)not me I don't have one, but they are out there. Oh well, she just gets the votes and you guys get the yard signs and big rallies.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Just down the street from me Sanders supporters vandalized a park. And they are sweethearts compared to Trump supporters.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Not a Single Hillary sign any where in sight. Only Bernie signs dominate, I have seen one small Trump sign sort of discretely displayed in a window.
Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)I either see Bernie signs or Trump signs; I've seen a couple of Hillary bumper stickers, not Hillary signs.
That's nice.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)unc70
(6,119 posts)I am in NC and in TN. I have not seen a single yard sign for any presidential candidate in either state. Not that many bumper stickers either, and they're rarely actually on the bumpers these days. So far, a few for Trump in TN and a couple in NC; one Cruz early in TN.
Have seen a couple for Hillary just in the last month, one in each state. They were the small (about 4 inch) "stealth" ones with just the H logo. They are easily missed. Seems like there was one regular Hillary sticker back during the primary in NC.
There were a few Bernie stickers back then, mostly in NC. I have seen a big increase in the number for Bernie just the last month in TN and in NC. Several dozen seen after the race was supposedly over.
Still a lot more Obama stickers around than all the others combined. Hell, I've probably seen more leftover Romney stickers than I have ones for Trump.
Don't know that any of this means anything. Maybe that bumper stickers and window decals have gone out of style. I did recently see a "Baby on Board".
RandySF
(59,224 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)3 Bernie signs (2 of them mine) and 1 Trump sign.
I have never seen a Hillary sign here, not even in the week leading up to our primary.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Funny thing is I keep seeing, oh, three million more votes and two hundred more delegates for Hillary.
I've never had a yard sign or a bumper sticker for any candidate. I've also never missed voting in any election.
But whatever cheers you up in the off season after you lose!
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)And it seems neither do Sanders supporters
osaMABUSh
(2,195 posts)Is the only HRC sign I've seen in PA
reformist2
(9,841 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Runningdawg
(4,522 posts)you see very few Democratic lawn signs. We are here, we have just learned not to advertise. The only one I have seen in my neighborhood recently was a Bernie sign. 2 cars in the drive with CA plates.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)And its candidates don't tend to inspire passion. They still tend to win.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Since she beat him.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)I will put one up for the General.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)What it says is the same thing that Bernie's YUUUUGE rallies say; nothing of consequence.
This is the 21st century...digital media, social media, an abundance of technology to connect and network with people across vast distances, alleviating the need to be physically present to build support.
Bernie fans harping about "signs" and "rallies" is the equivalent of 19th-century textile workers championing their traditional ways while decrying the Industrial Revolution.
qdouble
(891 posts)of their spouse aren't really in love. It's silly to try to use this as an indicator of support.