2016 Postmortem
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(47,992 posts)Cardinal Bernardin, before it was turned into a politically motivated profane lie by war profiteers, bigots, and racists.
Thank you, Vice President Biden for speaking the truth about "... the least of these ..."
They ARE Jesus and Romney/Ryan are the leaders of those who scream "Crucify them. Crucify them."
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)You go Joe!
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I see this in everything from the dreaded "guitar" mass to holding hands during the "Our Father". I now see the "Charismatic Movement" where you actually have Catholics babbling incoherently and claiming it to be "speaking in tongues". I am seriously considering Orthodoxy as an alternative to the Catholics of Rome.
Firebirds01
(576 posts)but now attend mass with my very catholic wife. I agree with your protestantization of the catholic church. There are lot of things in mass that feel right at home in a methodist or even baptist service.
patrice
(47,992 posts)in English, all together, with heart like the Protestants I knew. All of us also spoke our responses to the prayers together, always with heart. You could HEAR that everyone was really committing to those words. I like the parts, the Lord's Prayer, in which we held hands and ended with, "For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory ..." Our peace blessings were accompanied by sharing our clasped hands and with hugs for those who felt comfortable doing that.
All of that is Vatican II stuff, along with the words for the Eucharist that proclaim that the bread and wine is the work of human hands, that is, work, OUR living lives for the Lord of Love is what the transubstantiation is about. That effort is manifested in the Mass by eating the bread and wine together and making that commitment. Concrete. Real.
No abbracadabra, superstitious, mumbojumbo about it.
I no longer live in Tulsa and I am what is called a "fallen" Catholic, now, but I think of myself as a freed Catholic. I guess that's because I'm just not really good/saintly enough to just go and endure anything less than what I know to be real.