2016 Postmortem
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Jonathan Greenberg
Huff Po
Bernie Sanders has run the most successful grassroots campaign in American history, and his second American revolution provides the first real opportunity that We, the People, have had to overthrow our corporate-corrupted government and replace it with a system that benefits the public interest, our shared ecology, and a peaceful future.
There is simply no downside to voting for Sanders during this months final Democratic primaries. Bernie may still be our next President, despite the widely parroted insistence by a Clinton-biased corporate media and Democratic Party insiders that Bernie is finished. These are the same voices that have been singing the may as well stay home Bernie voter song since the very beginning of the primary season.
Bernie, not Hillary, is the one packing stadiums with newly motivated young voters and previously apathetic citizens of all races. Bernies momentum continues to soar, just as Clintons popularity, hammered by the latest report on her email scandal and a merciless Trump campaign, continues to decline. If Sanders pulls off an upset victory in California, which feels likely, and in other states during the next few weeks, then Bernies purportedly impossible dream may yet become our reality.
Probably won't work, but screw it. Go Bernie!
amborin
(16,631 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)I'd really give that to Obama.
basselope
(2,565 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)Never heard of a grass roots campaign working with pacs nor does it get strong support from Goldman Sachs (https://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cid=N00009638)
Obama raised money from the traditional sources and the majority of his money came from large donors.
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordemCID.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638
of the 345MM he raised 243MM of it came from people giving 2300 or more.
So 70% of his contribution were from people who could afford to throw 2300+ at a candidate.
That's not a grass roots campaign by any stretch of the imagination.
metroins
(2,550 posts)Obama's grassroots came from his campaign organization structure and support.
basselope
(2,565 posts)Obama just used the mechanism that existed.. and the managed to dismantle it afterwards.
metroins
(2,550 posts)No.
You cannot try to say Obama's 2008 campaign was because of Dean, when Dean didn't even make it out of the primary (and I really really liked Dean).
basselope
(2,565 posts)Dean was head of the DNC and built the entire infrastructure that Obama used.
Obama did nothing special or different in 2008 as far as campaigning and organizing went. HE was special and different because he talked about hope and change and made people believe that he had strong principles.
Sadly, it turned out not to be the case, which is why he lost so many votes in 2012 (over 13MM from his 2008 totals).
But he raised money from all the usual suspects. He used the DNC infrastructure that Dean had put in place.
There was no great grassroots movement... just a well placed infrastructure and incredible dissatisfaction with the GOP.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Nuclear waste in a small Hispanic town in Texas...
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)It's like something that Lewie Blewey guy would post. Seriously, not your best work.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Sanders was the cosponsor of the bill.. in 1994....he is far from a environmentalist
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)And you're not at all mischaracterizing the bill or how it might have been amended, or what compromises were involved and what else was at stake... no, not you. Sorry pal, no sale.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Unless truth hurts
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)If only I'd read this convincing argument beforehand.
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)because we need one so badly