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RandySF

(58,855 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:32 AM Jun 2016

What Are Sanders Supporters Doing with the Far Right American Independence Party

A federal judge refused Wednesday to reopen voter registration in California ahead of next week’s presidential primary, telling a group led by backers of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders that the rights of the state’s unaffiliated voters have not been harmed.

“There’s absolutely no showing of any federal violation,” said U.S. District Judge William Alsup.

Alsup also denied the request that volunteers at polling places be required to tell voters about the unusual rules surrounding which political parties have opened their presidential contests to unaffiliated “independent” voters.

“The citizens of California are smart enough to know what their rights are,” the judge said in a brief court hearing in San Francisco.

Attorneys for the Sanders affiliated group and California’s American Independent Party, both plaintiffs in the lawsuit, said they would consider asking a federal appeals court to intervene. But they also suggested a last-minute case in state court, even though the primary is on Tuesday.


http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-voting-lawsuit-sanders-supporters-20160601-snap-story.html


Now, about the American Independence Party. I'm not going to waste my time reprinting their supremacist crap. You can read it for yourself.

http://www.aipca.org


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What Are Sanders Supporters Doing with the Far Right American Independence Party (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2016 OP
The article tells you Scootaloo Jun 2016 #1
You might try reading the article you post TimPlo Jun 2016 #2
There are some people one should not associate with under any circumstances. RandySF Jun 2016 #3
Um, are you *sure* a supporter of Third Way policies wants to post that? villager Jun 2016 #4
I do like this wording Retrograde Jun 2016 #5
That was part of the lawsuit nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #6
What a creepy and underhanded way to make a smear. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #7
What's all this guilt by association nonsense? Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #8
Most people registered for it by mistake because it sounds like independent jfern Jun 2016 #9
I know, Hillary supporters are fine with the Democratic National Convention being hosted by Republic highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #10
From the suit: Tortmaster Jun 2016 #11
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. The article tells you
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:34 AM
Jun 2016

Making suit to have party registration extended until election day.

But nice nasty insinuation there.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
2. You might try reading the article you post
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:39 AM
Jun 2016

Then you would not seem like a fool when asking question that where answered in the article.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
5. I do like this wording
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:59 AM
Jun 2016

'“The citizens of California are smart enough to know what their rights are,” the judge said in a brief court hearing in San Francisco. '

How does one argue against that? "No, Your Honor, our voters are particularly stupid". I guess that's the AIP argument

It's been a while since I voted in person, but don't the polling sites in California have copies of the sample ballots and voters guides available for reference? I remember that they had at least the former, since we had those punch-card ballots in my county where you had to match up the numbers with the lines on the ballot.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
6. That was part of the lawsuit
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:05 AM
Jun 2016

I am surprised you claiming to live in CA are unaware of it. The state designation for independent is not independent, that is he American Independent Party. The form is not precisely the clearest you could make it. People have been asking for years, longer than that, to be clarified in the form. Many who have left BOTH MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES over the years, have found themselves shocked when they are told they cannot vote in the Democratic Party primary or the other two parties that allow it, because they are INDEPENDENT.

Most folks are not tuned in that far.

This year I wrote a couple stories explaining this to people So did the Registrar but my registrar is pretty decent. But the confusion is not a 2016 issue. It is a long standing issue. And NDP status is a somewhat newish term for the independent voter, you know, no party affiliation. It was agreed as a fix, but it has not worked. I think a simple note on the form would help a lot. But that is just me. And all states have quirks like this that make it harder for people to go truly no party preference. I think something in bright red, and bold letters would help

I know, I know you needed to take a dig at Sanders instead of maybe realizing we actually have an actual issue. It might not be big for you, since you are a Democrat and both Democrat and Republican are well known.

By the way, let me add the DMV form and I want the OP to explain to the rest of the class how this is clear as day

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
7. What a creepy and underhanded way to make a smear.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:06 AM
Jun 2016

You should have taken the time to read the article in the link.

Looks like you have been sifting headlines sloppy or more likely deliberately trying to mislead others.

Here is the problem that brought the issue to court.

>The lawsuit centered on the potential confusion over presidential primary rules for voters who are independent of political parties, known in California as having “no party preference.”<

Some folks when registering did not pay enough attention or were confused by the form and registered with the far right American Independent Party rather than as unaffiliated independent voters with "no party preference".

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
10. I know, Hillary supporters are fine with the Democratic National Convention being hosted by Republic
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:19 AM
Jun 2016

donors and anti-Obamacare lobbyists, and the committees staffed with lobbyists over union leaders, but Bernie Sanders trying to win a case in court is somehow off-limits.

Truly, the amount of self-delusion in people supporting Hillary Clinton simply knows no bounds.

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/11/lobbyists-dnc-2016-convention/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-allowing-donations-from-federal-lobbyists-and-pacs/2016/02/12/22b1c38c-d196-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
11. From the suit:
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:25 AM
Jun 2016
"The Plaintiffs also requested that the Judge order 'every voter to vote for Senator Sanders for President,' and that failure to do so would be "punishable as a second degree felony." The Judge claimed that that was a first in his experience. The Plaintiffs then complained that the election had been 'rigged'."


Here's a link:

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