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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:58 PM Jun 2016

DNC wouldn't allow labor reps on the Platform Drafting Committee (made an exception for Paul Booth).

Last edited Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Bernie Sanders chose RoseAnn DeMoro, executive director of National Nurses United, to advocate for Single Payer.

The DNC vetoed her:


...DNC platform committee spokeswoman Dana Vickers Shelley confirmed that the DNC had not wanted labor leaders on the platform drafting committee, limiting labor's presence to Paul Booth of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees union.

“Because union leadership was represented on the full platform committee, a decision was made no union leadership would be represented on the platform drafting committee,” said Vickers Shelley. “That was communicated to the campaigns, and they understood our rationale.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/01/sanders-dnc-vetoed-union-leader-pick-for-platform-committee/
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DNC wouldn't allow labor reps on the Platform Drafting Committee (made an exception for Paul Booth). (Original Post) Eric J in MN Jun 2016 OP
Absurd rationale. Unless you have a strongly corporate agenda and don't want labor interfering. nt stillwaiting Jun 2016 #1
Seriously, wuh tuh fuh? Maybe there's a decent explanation for this, but geek tragedy Jun 2016 #2
Labor has no place in the "New Democratic Party", founded on principles first proposed by Bill highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #3
^ This! This is AL From's democratic party. The democratic party is a center right party, but most JRLeft Jun 2016 #6
That's why I find that chart illuminating. Better results when not "Center-Right". By far. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #8
Not since 1947-49 have we had so few Democrats (188) in Congress. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #11
That unfortunately is the place where some will find their reasons. Lord knows the DNC and the highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #15
I agree with you on that 100%. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #24
Most of Hillary's supporters have no idea what neoliberalism is. JRLeft Jun 2016 #19
This is alright according to her supporters. Money has no impact on democratic decision making. JRLeft Jun 2016 #4
Any pay day loan companies on the committee? scscholar Jun 2016 #5
Bernie had five slots, nominated six people. #BernieMath CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #7
That's not the case at all, but I'm sure you didn't read the article Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #9
Considering the support that Bernie has won among Democratst, 5 slots is too few. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #17
Hillary got 6, he got 5. Perfectly fair. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #22
Who is Paul Booth then? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #13
I guess they made an exception to the rule Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #20
I'm sure they'll have the whole range of opinions on cannabis law reform, too. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #12
Sounds like a recipe for achieving absolutely nothing. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #18
They're holding platform advisory meetings in "all four" regions of the US Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #21
They'd conflict with all the lobbyists the DNC has allowed to infiltrate the committee. AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #14
Oh, I understand the "rationale" perfectly. bvar22 Jun 2016 #16
Would have had to push out DWS payday loan choice AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #23
Labor had no representation in TPP negotiations... HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #25
Aside from a select few, the Party elites are wholly bought and paid for by big business. Broward Jun 2016 #26
WHAT the fuck! WHAT the FUCK Party IS this?! John Poet Jun 2016 #27
K & R LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #28
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Seriously, wuh tuh fuh? Maybe there's a decent explanation for this, but
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jun 2016

the DNC certainly isn't providing one.

If I had to guess it would be that unions have competing agendas and that could open up Pandora's box, but that's just speculation.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
3. Labor has no place in the "New Democratic Party", founded on principles first proposed by Bill
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jun 2016

Clinton and responsible for us losing both Senate and House majorities for all but four of the past 20 years, when New Deal policies had us in the majority in House and Senate for practically all of 60 plus years before that.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
6. ^ This! This is AL From's democratic party. The democratic party is a center right party, but most
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jun 2016

Democrats have no idea.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
8. That's why I find that chart illuminating. Better results when not "Center-Right". By far.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

I live with the constant knowledge that people absorb and adopt false ideologies all the time. Much in evidence. For instance, those who follow Donald Trump.

The real problem is that our side has the same problem. Those who follow the false narratives that came out of suffering defeat at the hands of Reagan. We adopted Reagan-light policies on economics, while continuing to be Progressive on social issues.

If there is one thing responsible for the continued and perpetual economic suffering of most of our people, it would be this. And it won't discontinue until these false narratives are wiped out.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. Not since 1947-49 have we had so few Democrats (188) in Congress.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jun 2016

The entire DNC should resign. That is horrible.

So much for the Clintons and Obama and DNC politics.

Where are working people to turn? To Trump?????

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
15. That unfortunately is the place where some will find their reasons. Lord knows the DNC and the
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jun 2016

Democratic Party is giving them cold comfort.

I do believe that if more people knew something about this history that might mean something.

The Clinton Way has not been a successful one for the Democratic Party, (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html). and does not have my full-hearted support. I generally how they go on social issues (which I see as crumbs to the masses), but their economic philosophy runs completely counter to my own views and furthermore has been shown conclusively to adversely affect my quality of life.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. I agree with you on that 100%.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jun 2016

The Clinton wing is economically comfortable and interested mostly in liberal social policies.

The Sanders wing wants liberal policies both with regard to social and economic issues.

I worked for a homeless project for eight years. I am very aware of the problems of the poor because I was raised to think of others' pain and difficulties.

That's the influence of my parents who dedicated their lives to caring for people who had a hard time coping in our society especially the poor whether the disabled, coal miners, inner city dwellers (used to be called slums) or others.

Jane Addams was one of my idols as a child.

I was taught that I had gifts that others might not have and that I owed it to society and the earth to share them so as to help others, not just to enrich myself.

That used to be the value system of many in the Democratic Party. With Hillary's nomination, I recognize those values are being abandoned.

The Clintons have forsaken the poor, the needy and instead march to the tune of the rich and mighty. Hence their donors. Hence their donations from wealthy people.

Their Democratic Party is in my view a travesty. The Democratic grassroots does not yet realize what they are voting for.

Cold and cruel.

During this campaign, I spoke to a young disabled woman who told me that disabled people are hired to make items at 25 cents per item in the Los Angeles area. It's a job, but we can afford to compensate the disabled with a livable income. We don't.
That young disabled woman could be my daughter or yours. That could be Hillary's daughter.

How can people be so cruel?

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
19. Most of Hillary's supporters have no idea what neoliberalism is.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jun 2016

Actual progressivism is considered to be fringe when it is actually the centrist position.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
9. That's not the case at all, but I'm sure you didn't read the article
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jun 2016

They vetoed his choice so he had to choose someone else. God forbid he choose a woman and someone representing labor.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. Considering the support that Bernie has won among Democratst, 5 slots is too few.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jun 2016

And no matter what, labor is not adequately represented on the platform committee.

Response to BobbyDrake (Reply #10)

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
20. I guess they made an exception to the rule
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jun 2016

...for Hillary Clinton's choices but not Bernie Sanders' choices. I updated my thread title to be clearer.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. I'm sure they'll have the whole range of opinions on cannabis law reform, too.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jun 2016

You know, everyone from those who favor stricter prison sentences outright to the ones who just want to arrest more pot smokers and then force them into treatment.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
21. They're holding platform advisory meetings in "all four" regions of the US
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jun 2016

Um, the East Coast, The Southeast, The Midwest and the Southeast (i.e. Arizona)

Gee, what could be missing, there?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
16. Oh, I understand the "rationale" perfectly.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jun 2016

The "New 3rd Way Democrats" abandoned Organized LABOR in 1992,
the year Bill Clinton was elected with Koch Brothers money.

Koch Industries gave funding to the DLC and served on its Executive Council
http://americablog.com/2010/08/koch-industries-gave-funding-to-the-dlc-and-served-on-its-executive-council.html

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
25. Labor had no representation in TPP negotiations...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jun 2016

...nor did environmentalists. It's pretty clear who the Turd Way is serving, and it ain't us.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
27. WHAT the fuck! WHAT the FUCK Party IS this?!
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jun 2016

I bet there's no union leaders on the Republican platform drafting committee, either...

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