I am SO glad that DU (tm) has NEVER embraced that whole "revolution" concept.

[ret5hd]

just saying'.

[bkkyosemite]

1. ...

[onehandle]

2. Back when DU was about fighting the 'Bush Junta.'

Not about derailing the Democratic nominee.

[bahrbearian]

6. Back before Servers in the basement, when were fighting to stop a war, well, at least some of us.

[ret5hd]

7. Yeah, but isn't the whole idea of "revolution" childish, ill-conceived,...

inaccurate, violent, off-putting, un-American, etc etc etc.

I'm just saying I'm glad DU (tm) and Skinner, Elad, et al have never espoused such concepts, seeing as the whole idea of "revolution" is so obviously antithetical to the ideals of DU (tm).

[Scootaloo]

51. Progressivism is only a good idea when a Republican is in office and it can't be achieved.

Gotcha, loud and clear

[TwilightZone]

3. My, how far it's fallen.

That was from a time when we understood who the really enemy was.

A time when Breitbart, Fox News, National Review, FACT, Judicial Watch, and other right-wingers weren't considered legitimate sources and using them was justification for getting booted off the site. Now, they get 100 recs.

I'll take the early days, thanks.

[IdaBriggs]

8. And people weren't allowed to be assholes to each other.

I miss those days.

[JudyM]

11. ^^^^Absolutely this!!^^^^

[RKP5637]

27. K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Since JW is the plaintif in the CIVIL LAWSUIT

how do you get around covering that issue without mentioning them? For the record, they are separate from the CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, but by your standards the DOJ is RW.

[TwilightZone]

17. You can't seriously be defending Judicial Watch

The same organization who used the Benghazi committee nonsense as a fundraiser?

The same organization who is fighting LGBT nondiscrimation measures in public schools?

The same organization founded by a right-wing conspiracy theorist nutcase? The guy who was one of the driving forces behind the "Obama is a Muslim" horseshit?

The same organization who, along with Tony Perkins of the AFA, claimed they stopped an ISIS terrorist attack in Mexico?

THAT is who you've attached your desperate hopes and dreams of an indictment on? Judicial fricking Watch?

You cannot possibly be serious.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Covering the issue is not defending them

I understand your confusion. I asked a serious question, How is CNN going to cover the Civil Lawsuit without mentioning ONCE the plaintiff

Whether you like it or not, there is actual civil lawsuit with actual, honest to goodness, discovery and depositions. SO answer the fucking question, given this is an actual news story, how do you cover them, without mentioning them? They defendant is the United States State Department by the way.

[840high]

35. .that^

[lmbradford]

49. Not right wing attacks either

Kerry started this investigation. Obamas IG was in charge. Dont lose your grip. This is real and not right wing.

She did this to herself. I would hope her supporters wont tie themselves to the ship as it sinks.

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. Some of them already have

[Barack_America]

57. No. They're the plaintiffs, not the defendants.

They filed the suit, and therefore aren't required to defend anything.

[pugetres]

53. A time when...

when Fox News wasn't a legitimate source to quote as opposed to being a current source of campaign funds. Yes! Those were the days.

[democrank]

4. Back then we fought on issues.

[bigwillq]

5. Great shirt (nt)

[ret5hd]

23. Thanks...

There is also a great, strong, intelligent and beautiful woman inside it.

Oh, I forgot patient.

[ret5hd]

55. Clarification: The person in the shirt is my wife, not me!

[bigwillq]

56. Still a great shirt.

[LWolf]

9. DU and the Democratic Party.

They're a changin'.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. SNICKER

I thought I remembered that

[ret5hd]

14. Yeah, you remembered correctly.

That's my wife wearing that shirt tonight...the same shirt she wore to the Cindy Sheehan protests outside the bush* compound in texas.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. That explains it

That was an alternate version of reality DU, it started to change I think... around this event



If that happened under Bush they would have been all for it

[Hydra]

21. They asked us to hold their feet to the fire!

Oh, boy, did they change their tune on that quickly!

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Yup

[Arazi]

13. K and big fucking R!

[ret5hd]

16. To make this even more ironic, this is the 1970 song/poem DU (tm) ripped the tag-line from:

You will not be able to stay home, brother
You will not be able to plug in, turn on and cop out
You will not be able to lose yourself on skag
And skip out for beer during commercials
Because the revolution will not be televised

The revolution will not be televised
The revolution will not be brought to you by Xerox
In 4 parts without commercial interruptions
The revolution will not show you pictures of Nixon
Blowing a bugle and leading a charge by John Mitchell
General Abrams and Spiro Agnew to eat hog maws
Confiscated from a Harlem sanctuary
The revolution will not be televised

The revolution will not be brought to you by the
Schaefer Award Theater and will not star Natalie Woods
And Steve McQueen or Bullwinkle and Julia
The revolution will not give your mouth sex appeal
The revolution will not get rid of the nubs
The revolution will not make you look five pounds thinner
Because the revolution will not be televised, Brother

There will be no pictures of you and Willie May
Pushing that shopping cart down the block on the dead run
Or trying to slide that color TV into a stolen ambulance
NBC will not be able predict the winner at 8:32
Or report from 29 districts
The revolution will not be televised

There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
Brothers on the instant replay
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
Brothers on the instant replay

There will be no pictures of Whitney Young
Being run out of Harlem on a rail with a brand new process
There will be no slow motion or still life of Roy Wilkens
Strolling through Watts in a red, black and green
Liberation jumpsuit that he had been saving
For just the proper occasion

Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies and Hooter ville Junction
Will no longer be so damned relevant
And women will not care if Dick finally gets down with Jane
On search for tomorrow because black people
Will be in the street looking for a brighter day
The revolution will not be televised

There will be no highlights on the eleven o'clock news
And no pictures of hairy armed women liberationists
And Jackie Onassis blowing her nose
The theme song will not be written by Jim Webb
Francis Scott Key, nor sung by Glen Campbell, Tom Jones
Johnny Cash, Englebert Humperdink or the Rare Earth
The revolution will not be televised

The revolution will not be right back after a message
About a white tornado, white lightning, or white people
You will not have to worry about a dove in your bedroom
The tiger in your tank or the giant in your toilet bowl
The revolution will not go better with Coke
The revolution will not fight the germs that may cause bad breath
The revolution will put you in the driver's seat

The revolution will not be televised, will not be televised
Will not be televised, will not be televised
The revolution will be no re-run brothers
The revolution will be live

[TwilightZone]

18. ripped?

That's the intended reference, genius.

[ret5hd]

20. Yeah, except DU (tm) doesn't believe in "revolution".

Does it? Or am I getting confused?

[Hydra]

24. "Revolution"

Meant Pepsi winning the war against Coke. To some here, at least. For them, the ascendancy of Pepsi is complete! All hail Pepsi!

[Dem2]

25. Is there no level of maturity here?

Childish comparisons? C'mon!

[ret5hd]

29. Well, explain it to me...what kind of respectable "revolution" was DU (tm) calling for...

as opposed to the detestable kind of "revolution" SBS is calling for?

[Dem2]

39. I can't believe y'all are comparing discontent of Republican Bush with pro-Bernie

It's freaking illogical - holy crap stop embarrassing yourself!

[ret5hd]

40. Are you declaring the letter behind the name is the important part?

[Dem2]

44. On this site it DOES

YES!!

Jesus fucking christ has this place been taken over by aliens?

[ret5hd]

46. What letter does SBS have behind his name?

[Dem2]

47. ACK!

[Hekate]

26. So...nobody remembers George W Bush and the bloodless coup d'etat

Wow. Just wow.

[Bluenorthwest]

30. Everybody does. Also, everyone remembers all the Bernie Bashers acting as if the word

revolution was the exclusive parlance of the vaunted 'Bernie Bro' and never spoken by 'real Democrats'.

I'm sure you remember both things as well. Of course.

[stevenleser]

31. Yep, context is everything. Without context, you miss a lot. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

32. That post is laughable. 'No one remembers? Wow, just wow!'

As if we've all forgotten Bush like Hillary forgot that Reagan was the villain of the AIDS era.

[stevenleser]

33. It's not laughable. I took that "Nobody remembers..." as sarcasm. In that context it's

quite an astute observation.

[Bluenorthwest]

34. It's not astute, it's a posture. Your team has treated the word revolution as if it was

some insane fringe word when Mr Skinner saw fit to profit by vending it. The context is irony, hypocrisy and persons who can't own their work.

[stevenleser]

37. It's astute. You don't see that because your team conveniently or ignorantly forgets context.

As I have been saying.

[liberal_at_heart]

36. back during a time when we were allowed to be concerned with issues but only

because we had a Republican president. When we have a Democratic president we're not allowed to be concerned with issues.

[ret5hd]

38. No shit.

[scscholar]

41. Apparently the media is no longer allowed to report on issues (ntxt)

[riderinthestorm]

42. For a country born of revolution, modern day Dems' horror at Bernie’s revolution is ridiculous

Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité (Liberty, Equality, Fraternity) used to be a revolutionary aspiration we admired.

Black Power, the sexual revolution, counter culture revolution... iconic movements Democrats embraced.

Viva La Status Quo! Our new motto...

[bigtree]

43. when we waged war on republicans

...not on our own party.

[ret5hd]

45. And when our own party wasn't waging war on us.

There, finished it for you.

[lmbradford]

50. ^^^^This

[geek tragedy]

48. It was never Greenpartyunderground nt

[yodermon]

52. the Underground is actively rejecting the Revolution.

Some Underground you got here Skinner. What are you "underground" in relation to? Oh, Republicans, in power, only.
Signal received.