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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Mon May 30, 2016, 03:41 PM May 2016

Poor polls, scandal, a cussed rival … how it’s all going wrong for Hillary Clinton

She was expected to be the clear frontrunner for the presidency. But after a terrible week, Hillary Clinton is still trading blows with Bernie Sanders as the Donald Trump menace grows

The week that Donald Trump finally sealed the Republican presidential nomination ought to have been a triumphant one for Hillary Clinton. With a final few delegates nudging him past the official finishing line on Thursday, here at last was the candidate that Democrats always dreamed of running against: unpopular, undisciplined and ostensibly unelectable in November’s general election.

Yet in the Alice in Wonderland world of American politics in 2016, nothing is what it seems. Clinton supporters would instead have to stomach six impossible things before the week was out.

The first was the sight of the former secretary of state falling behind her Republican opponent in an average of national opinion polls. Though by a wafer-thin – and probably temporary – margin, the breaching of this symbolic threshold could yet become self-fulfilling if it normalises the once unthinkable prospect of a Trump-themed White House.

Then came a damning report by an independent inspector at the Department of State, who contradicted her claims that she had been allowed to use a private email server for official business while serving as the nation’s chief diplomat. Once again, things were not quite as simple as they appeared, and Clinton allies argue that the report also shows other former secretaries of state up to the same tricks. But only one of them is running for president. With the FBI still investigating whether she broke federal law, this is an old wound that could reopen again before the contest is over.

Some Democrats, such as progressive champion Elizabeth Warren, show signs of trying to rally around their beleaguered team captain, yet the ongoing FBI investigation also complicates the ability of the party’s most influential cheerleader to come to the rescue. At a press conference in Japan, the normally loquacious Barack Obama flat out refused to take a question from a journalist asking whether the email scandal undermined Clinton’s “trustworthiness”.

In part, the ringing non-endorsement reflects the president’s need for political as well as legal neutrality. For perhaps the biggest surprise of the race so far is that it is the Democratic party – not the Republicans, who were once forced to choose from 17 candidates – that is still officially undecided on its nominee. Bernie Sanders might be far enough behind in the delegates race for Clinton to plausibly declare herself the victor already, but he is putting up a surprisingly spirited fight on the final sprint to the finishing line.

Much more at:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/28/hillary-clinton-us-presidential-electiond-democrats
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Poor polls, scandal, a cussed rival … how it’s all going wrong for Hillary Clinton (Original Post) Logical May 2016 OP
Bernie is so angry &Trump is such a bully-but 1 person is having a blast laughing all the way to riversedge May 2016 #1
I agree for you people hiding head in the sand is a good idea. Don't blame you. Much less.... Logical May 2016 #2
A genuine laugh from a woman WhiteTara May 2016 #6
That last picture would have staid in my drive nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #8
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #3
Here's how its going... jamese777 May 2016 #4
Those numbers.... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #7
The absurdity of it all is so depressing loyalsister May 2016 #5
She doesn't believe the rules apply to her... Yurovsky May 2016 #10
It may have dawned on Obama that emailgate could potentially bite him in the ass tularetom May 2016 #9
I think it already has loyalsister May 2016 #11

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
1. Bernie is so angry &Trump is such a bully-but 1 person is having a blast laughing all the way to
Mon May 30, 2016, 03:45 PM
May 2016

the Oval Office.



TWEET
Cindy Leinwand ?@CindyLeinwand12 22h22 hours ago

#Bernie is so angry & #Trump is such a bully - but one person is having a blast laughing all the way to the WH!






 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
2. I agree for you people hiding head in the sand is a good idea. Don't blame you. Much less....
Mon May 30, 2016, 03:50 PM
May 2016

stressful than the reality.

LOL, that last pic of her is not a good one.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
6. A genuine laugh from a woman
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:22 PM
May 2016

is definitely unseemly. Women should be seen with a small, hand covered smile only.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. That last picture would have staid in my drive
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:27 PM
May 2016

full disclosure I have some terrible photos of people. here on this hard drive, some are even of Sanders. I KNOW gasp, but when you go burst mode you are liable to get some really bad photos.

Response to Logical (Original post)

jamese777

(546 posts)
4. Here's how its going...
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:13 PM
May 2016

By the numbers:
Primaries' total popular vote as of May 30th
Hillary Clinton: 13,192,713 (55.5%)
Bernie Sanders: 10,158,889 (42.7%)
Donald Trump: 11,266,041

Clinton over Sanders: 3,033,824
Clinton over Trump: 1,926,672
Trump over Sanders: 1,057,152

Hillary Clinton: 1,775 pledged delegates
Bernie Sanders: 1,499 pledged delegates

Hillary Clinton: 522 superdelegates
Bernie Sanders: 42 superdelegates

Hillary Clinton: 2,297 total delegates
Bernie Sanders: 1,541 total delegates

Hillary Clinton: 26 contests won
Bernie Sanders: 21 contests won

Hillary Clinton needs 89 delegates
Bernie Sanders needs 842 delegates

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. The absurdity of it all is so depressing
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

How a person whose husband was impeached for lying under oath would be willing to either willfully lie or make completely inaccurate statements is beyond me.
It makes no sense to me that a person running for president would inflict so much damage on herself.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
9. It may have dawned on Obama that emailgate could potentially bite him in the ass
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:34 PM
May 2016

If there is no indictment, it will be assumed by half the voters that the president squelched the investigation. Whether or not he actually did.

It's time for him to leave Clinton twisting slowly in the wind and show a bit of concern for his legacy. He doesn't want to be remembered as the president who appointed an incompetent or corrupt secretary of state and then failed to provide the proper oversight.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
11. I think it already has
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:22 PM
May 2016

or rather appointing her in the first place did. She stabbed him in the back by consulting with Blumenthal on Lybia. What he sees as his biggest mistake now appears to have been something she talked him into so she could pad her own resume. It is truly dispicable.

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