Has anyone noticed how much focus the Sanders folks are giving to the email story?

[brooklynite]

Because, that's NEVER been their issue with Clinton. They've been after her for being a neocon/DLCer/DINO/Wall St shill/practically a Republican. Unfortunately, the voters don't seem to agree. I guess if you can't sell the dog food, change the marketing.

[hrmjustin]

1. I notice they post with glee over a possible indictment.

[bvf]

22. "Glee"? Hardly. Shame, more likely.

You should know better. You probably do.

The shame is yours.

[hrmjustin]

25. Feel better?

[rock]

44. Did you ever notice

How BSers first choice for a reply always seems to be deflection?

[hrmjustin]

45. Yes.

[bvf]

72. Point out the deflection.

There was none.

Perhaps you could use a simpler vocabulary list.

[rock]

74. That's rich

Not LOL funny, but still pretty funny.

[bvf]

77. So, what you're saying is, you can't.

OK, then.

[Live and Learn]

2. Has anyone noticed how Hillary supporters are sticking their heads in the sand and refusing to see

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how flawed and unethical their candidate is?

[99th_Monkey]

16. +10

[yallerdawg]

36. Or is it a resistance to swallowing rightwing bait like that...

generated from the Benghazi Committee, Judicial Watch, Republican "leaks" and Fox News sources using speculation and innuendo to hurt OUR candidate?

I'd rather be skeptical than a tool.

[Armstead]

65. And the State Department and the FBI

[BillZBubb]

37. Yep. That's it in a nutshell.

[rhett o rick]

48. They are frightened because the People's Movement is growing every day and their precious

corporate-oligarchy is in trouble. They are on the wrong side of this class war. Guess whose side Clinton is with her $150,000,000 wealth?

[Live and Learn]

52. Her loyalties are so obvious and some people simply refuse to acknowledge it. Sad. nt

[JudyM]

3. Nope. Corruption is corruption, same story. Our concerns are fact-based and these are newly proven

facts.

And apparently there are more facts to come. Better fasten your seatbelt if this is already making your head spin...

[Demsrule86]

6. Wouldn't it be funny

If Clinton becomes president and Jane and Bernie go to camp fed over that college potential mortgage fraud scandal. Corruption is corruption. Hillary goes to the White House and Bernie goes to the er big house.

[JudyM]

10. Ok, sure, whatever fantasy you need to escape seeing what she has done as corrupt, enjoy it

while you still can, my friend. We have only seen the prelude from State.

[basselope]

17. LOL. Clinton becoming president.

That's funny.

0 chance.

But funny.

[rock]

47. That would be funny

Even if Hillary didn't become president. That's just icing on the cake!

[libdem4life]

46. Took a while to recreate those 30,000 emails and find one of the trails

that ties in the Clinton Foundation way beyond the email scandal. I believe that the reason it has gone on and on is that the Rabbit Hole has led to places formerly unknown.

Now with the discovery of the Large Donation of Bill's buddy through a secret Canadian source, I think it has heated up and has triggered a different look. Many of the Clinton Foundation donors, as I read it, are hidden behind a myriad of shell companies and similar tax/donation dodges.

But, nothing to see here. Move right along.

[hollysmom]

4. that is because it never was spelled out inthe detail

that has been released by the department.
to me e-,mail is mostly a waste of time that I Have to despam all the time, Or annoying when I have to print some of it out. burt now that the law has been identified that was broken and the details of the case are all out there, it is a different story. I thought it was just a rule, I had no idea it was a law, so in the past I defended Clinton, But I think the failures of security and the exposed lies about what happened, and that damn blackberry has changed my opinion. She didn't eve password protect her e-mail, that is only possible because of her unsecured not password protected server - the people who told her not to do it that she ignored, the permission she never asked, it all adds up to someone hellbent on doing what they want and if a an international incident occurred, oh well, too bad.

[Demsrule86]

7. no

You just want Bernie to win but he lost so you grasp at straws...indictment fairy not coming.

[virtualobserver]

14. the bambboozling gnome won't save her, either.

[hollysmom]

21. no, you are wrong.

You asked a question and I answered honestly - look back and see how many times I defended Clinton on this, But I can not do that anymore - I am an IT person and she offended me to the very core by not listening to people who knew what they were talking about. You don't have to be an IT expert, but if you don't know something listen to people who do, not yes men who will agree with what ever you say like her "security Expert" who is no expert. I mean can you justify not password protecting a server. For goodness sakes, I am on a specialized board and we password protected our video vault and it is mostly copies of old videos which were aging off the internet......And it was set up by old women 13 years ago!

So please stop assuming things based on what you want to believe and start looking at the facts of the case I am not in denial, I don't expect Sanders to win, I do believe he should be allowed to run unless we are living in some sort of dictatorship or something, I do believe that there is too much corporate influence in the party and would like to see that fixed.

[rhett o rick]

50. The Corp-Oligarchy that Clinton ($150,000,000) represents is going down. It's time to get

the influence of the Wealthy out of government. The People's Movement is gaining momentum.

[99th_Monkey]

18. +10

[virtualobserver]

5. It was the OIG report....it is Hillary who has changed her tune.

She has moved from "it was allowed" to "I thought it was allowed".

It is proceeding like a textbook Clinton scandal.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Remove Clinton

It is proceeding like a textbook scandal. This includes the lashing out and bunker mentality by supporters.

[Trenzalore]

8. When you are losing by every metric

Your only hope is misfortune for your opponent.

[scscholar]

11. This. It's just nasty and bitter

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Has not one thing to do with Sanders

Or is the FBI working for the Sanders campaign?

[Trenzalore]

20. Its politics

I'm sure if there was a potential indictment in 2008 for Tony Rezko the Hillary people would have been playing it up till the last primary.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. But Sanders has not.

And this is the reality. Now trump already is

But back to reality, what the FBIi does is separate from the process. They are supposed to be independent. Learn that. If they recommend indictment your party will have to either change it's tune, or lose the election. That is where they intersect. For the record, I give two shits who your party nominates. But if suicide in November is your choice, full speed ahead. The country will suffer, but please nominate a weak, not natural politician (her words) and now deeply wounded politician. Go for it.

I know what I am doing. Who I am pretending to vote that is.

[Trenzalore]

27. The alternative is a guy

Who couldn't beat the weak, not natural politician.

If there is a looming disaster, the best alternative is a dark horse candidate at the convention.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. There is a looming disaster

And the alternative is not one I intend to talk here. Suffice it to say, historians won't be kind with democrats if they stick with her. You will help elect a fascist

[Armstead]

71. She played it up...til she got caught with a photo of her and the same guy

http://www.mtv.com/news/1580029/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-get-personal-at-testy-debate/

The second-to-last debate of the primary season found Obama and Clinton pulling out some nasty accusations about each other, with Clinton saying that while she was fighting against the bad ideas of Republican administrations, Obama was “practicing law and representing [his] contributor [Tony] Rezko in his slum-landlord business in inner-city Chicago.” She was referring to longtime Obama fundraiser Tony Rezko, who was indicted last fall on federal charges of business fraud and influence peddling.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2008/03/obama-and-rezko-any-there-there

In emails, on conference calls with reporters, on the campaign trail, Hillary Clinton and her aides have repeatedly raised the issue of Barack Obama's relationship with Tony Rezko, a developer now on trial on corruption charges. Clinton aides have said over and over that there are "unanswered questions" about this relationship and have encouraged reporters to dig, dig, dig (even though several reporters have already done so). Clinton referred to Rezko during the debates. Though Obama has been accused of no wrongdoing in the Rezko affair, he did--as he has acknowledged--screw up by getting into a personal real estate transaction with Rezko when the developer was under federal investigation.

For anyone wondering if there is any there there to the Rezko ma

[MADem]

9. They're confusing "rules" with crimes.

It's funny, because there are rules here, and some don't feel the need to follow them and no one is calling that a "crime." I guess it's OK if you cheer for that team!

A week and a day...can't wait.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Add CNN to that and editorial boards across the

Country.

[morningfog]

19. lol. That's idoitic. We've consistently said she is a liability becuse

Of her poor judgment and that this story has legs. Those legs went to the OIG, FBI and DOJ.

[HumanityExperiment]

24. ...bad leadership...

HRC is all about bad leadership, bad decisions...

What we 'notice', there is so much more... we just have this private server as the most recent to 'chat' about...

IRAQ War

Wall Street Deregulation

Keystone Pipeline

TPP trade, any trade deal for that matter...

Fracking

Same Sex marriage

Libya

and on and on....

[Eric J in MN]

26. I noticed Sanders doesn't talk about the email scandal at his rallies

...and only in interviews when he's asked.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. Exactly. And he tries to talk other issues

[BillZBubb]

35. Too bad, though. He should have been on this from the beginning.

He gave her a pass.

[aikoaiko]

30. Well now there is a report that challenges her story to an extent

It's not just partisan speculation now.

[Beacool]

31. Trump - Sanders, two campaigns that are trying to bring down Hillary.

Two campaigns that will fail to do so.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. Because

[Beacool]

41. One down and one more to go.

Hillary is on her way to the nomination. The next step will be to vanquish the Oompa Loompa candidate.

[libdem4life]

51. What about politics do you not understand. People run to win.

Not to "bring down" or fulfill the Conspiracy Theories of a certain group of partisans. Go with your candidate. Shout out her strengths. Make your case. You support her. Stick with it.

Victims and children act/speak this way.

[BillZBubb]

32. Notice how the Hillary folks just can't understand why we don't like Hillary?

They give a list of a FEW of our issues with her. They of course omit the others that are just as important--they deal with her lack of character.

The emails are just the latest, of a thousand examples, of Hillary's dishonesty.

Oh, and the voters DO agree--just not the Democratic primary voters. The polls show a big majority of all voters know Hillary is dishonest and untrustworthy. The Hillary few just don't get it--what with there heads in the sand and all.

[WhiteTara]

34. I fear that some (at least one or two)

will have a stroke they are so worked up. Multiple threads multiple times a day.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. By golly, I agree with you.

They've been after her for being a neocon/DLCer/DINO/Wall St shill/practically a Republican.

I don't know about "they" but those are my issues with her.

The email thing is just another indication of her unfitness for public office.

[Yurovsky]

39. The FBI seems pretty interested...

I guess that make the FBI already complicit in the VRWC.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. They have been preparing the ground on that

For months.

Why the OIG report was partisan. Yup, saw that here. The FBI is led by a registered republican (true) who was appointed by Obama. Before long, especially if there is an indictment, Obama will be part of it. This is never ever the fault of a Clinton

[MineralMan]

42. Desperation.

"O FBI kenobi, you're our only hope!"

[ZombieHorde]

60. I'm not HRC's biggest fan,

but that is pretty funny.

[MineralMan]

61. Thanks. My humor is a bit warped, but I try.

[ZombieHorde]

63. Your warped humor is why I enjoy your posts.

[N.Y. to Paris]

43. Ever notice.....

how Clinton-folk are in denial of the email story, even
though we're talking about the FBI and she's already
admitted she screwed up? Sorry, either way; she's
damaged goods.... you want to jump up and down about
her, that's your business, BTW, I thought she'd won already,
why the 24-7 bashing of Bernie and "Sanders folks"? She's
incredibly divisive and so are these never ending, every
day arrogant posts? Is this how we bring the "Party" together?
Again; sorry, but you can have "BLUNDER WOMAN".....
Actually, what she needs is a new campaign slogan, something
like.....Straight To Hell With Hill!
Wait a minute...... that's not too bad!

[B Calm]

49. I'm all done defending the Clintons. Grew tired of that after NAFTA!

[flor-de-jasmim]

53. It's much more than "an e-mail story"

[anotherproletariat]

54. Their movement is dying before their eyes...it's just reactionary. nt

[pmorlan1]

55. Marketing?

I'm beginning to think Clinton Derangement Syndrome is not a description of her critics but her defenders. Whether you like it or not this is a serious issue and it has grave implications for our Party. Making light of it is just as bad as saying you know for sure she will be indicted. None of us knows how this will end but following this story is a no-brainer. I would have much more respect for Hillary supporters if they just said they will wait until the FBI finishes their investigation rather than attacking Sanders supporters for paying attention to this story and pretending it's Sanders fault.

[Hoyt]

56. The digital equivalent of jaywalking is hardly a scandal.

[Rattlesnake Chaser]

58. Oh, so sending Blumenthal top secret material pertaining to national security

is jaywalking?

Uh-huh.

[Hoyt]

59. Assuming she did, which is questionable, Blumenthal is not a spy or security risk.

[nadinbrzezinski]

69. SAP material from NSA is not a nothing burget

[JoePhilly]

57. All other roads lead to nowhere.

[B Calm]

62. Seriously, don't you ever get tired of defending the Clintons? NAFTA, IMPEACHMENT,

Etc.

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. It has been good for her family

they are in the top you see.

[B Calm]

67. Well I'm done defending them. I'll be damn if I'll be embarrassed by their actions!

[nadinbrzezinski]

68. I am with you, but in their case

it makes sense. For us working stiffs... chickens for colonel sanders...

[Seeinghope]

66. There is just so much to choose from. Honestly she is the gift that keeps on giving.

We all saw the debate where Bernie Sanders mentioned the Wall Street speeches and she countered with his tax return. He then said that he would release his tax return the next day so she could release the transcripts the next day too. She did an about face and then changed over and said "the Republicans should release their....." Bernie Sanders called her bluff and she failed. Her love of aggression in solving problems towards countries especially in the ME is obvious. She is totally tied in with the DNC who is fully supporting her and working against Bernie Sanders. It is nothing to be proud of but it is the truth.

[karynnj]

70. Sanders said he did not care to speak of it, but noted it was under investigation - it still is

In addition, the State Department IG just issued a report. Imagine if the Republican had been the one in Clinton's position (as part of a Republican administration.) She would speak of it.

[riderinthestorm]

73. Nope. My #1 issue with Hillary is her disastrous climate change policies

Everything else is simply window dressing. I'll comment on other issues but honestly climate change issues are demonstrably my #1 focus.

[morningfog]

75. Kind of like the FBI! Lol.

[Autumn]

78. So fucking strange that people talk about a political issue on a political message board.

Skinner needs to stop it at once!! We need to focus on how well she dresses.

[geek tragedy]

79. Dead Enders gotta dead end. nt

[bigwillq]

81. Yes, as they should.

Have you noticed how much focus the Hillary folks are giving Bernie when he has little shot at the nomination?